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  1. #281
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    Rysir Arcalane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Only bad DRKs.
    Dont think it matters how good the drk is its still extremely annoying when a white mage feels the need to make ears bleed when you hit blood price which if dps is rocking it will at most leave 2 trash mobs to whack you for half a second.

    As a part time dark knight myself Ive seen this a fair few times and while I seemingly found a work around through trial and error to find out white mages usually™ holy spam when monsters are at the 50% mark so I know when to prepare but holy is an ungodly annoying thing when I want to be hit.
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  2. #282
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    Kitfox's Avatar
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rysir View Post
    Dont think it matters how good the drk is its still extremely annoying when a white mage feels the need to make ears bleed when you hit blood price which if dps is rocking it will at most leave 2 trash mobs to whack you for half a second.

    As a part time dark knight myself Ive seen this a fair few times and while I seemingly found a work around through trial and error to find out white mages usually™ holy spam when monsters are at the 50% mark so I know when to prepare but holy is an ungodly annoying thing when I want to be hit.
    Delay Blood Price for 6 seconds, that's literally all you have to do. Problem solved. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  3. #283
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    Faliandra's Avatar
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    Lumielle Whisperwind
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rysir View Post
    Dont think it matters how good the drk is its still extremely annoying when a white mage feels the need to make ears bleed when you hit blood price which if dps is rocking it will at most leave 2 trash mobs to whack you for half a second.

    As a part time dark knight myself Ive seen this a fair few times and while I seemingly found a work around through trial and error to find out white mages usually™ holy spam when monsters are at the 50% mark so I know when to prepare but holy is an ungodly annoying thing when I want to be hit.

    Ugh, WHM here. I hate to be paired with DRK tanks in roulettes cos of this. It would be fairly simple to time though, but from what I've seen many DRKs use Blood Price so RANDOMLY that I dont know how to cope with it.
    If I see a pattern, I try to adjust to it. As in: some DRKs use it right away on packs. Fair enough. I'll set up my heals first then and by the time Aero III is applied and Holy is done casting, your Blood Price has worn off anyway.
    If you're the type to pop it after some time, I usually rush my Holy casts so the stun effect wears off by the time your blood price hits. If our timings dont match...well, I can still bridge some time to spam Blizzard II until your Blood Price runs out....but really, some DRKs sometimes dont use it at all, sometimes use it right away, sometimes use it when the pack is almost dead. It's so random that at some point, I just shrug and stop caring.
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  4. #284
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    blame your dps then. Just had a ran in keeper of the lake, and healer only healed. dungeon went by fast.
    next dungeon i did was super slow because the healer was dpsing more then healing, not healing the tank much. The dps were causing the problems. Content doesn't take into account of healer damage. So if you get slow runs look at the dps not the healer.
    Then you had crap DPS. I have done Xelphatol in under ten minutes when everyone focused on high DPS and I had no issues mitigating damage myself as the tank.
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  5. #285
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    Pomelo's Avatar
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    Pomelo Elmbrook
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    Delay Blood Price for 6 seconds, that's literally all you have to do. Problem solved. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Literally this.
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  6. #286
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    Mendalas's Avatar
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    Mendalas Dragoonai
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    And that's fine but healers who refuse to DPS at all are a plague on this game.
    Kinda seems like people like you are the plague tbh
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  7. #287
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    White Mage melt large packs so quickly with holy spam. They put Summoners to shame. If you're a White Mage and you aren't taking advantage of that amazing spell then something is wrong.
    Yeah I like totally believe you and stuff...

    https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/13#metric=dps

    I'm looking at the rankings here... and... errm there's no WHMs here in the top category... and it is showing their damage DPS...

    You're either living in your own world... or... if your WHM side is out damaging your SMN side... then the likely culprit is yourself.

    The SMNs are at about 4K DPS, the WHMs are at about 2K.

    And there's more...

    The highest AoE DPS order goes like this...

    1. SMN
    2. BLM and MNK (shockingly tied)

    Now I'm not going to say WHMs can't do DPS... but to think they outdamage the rest of the pack is... well.... living in a fantasy world.
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  8. #288
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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    blame your dps then. Just had a ran in keeper of the lake, and healer only healed. dungeon went by fast.
    next dungeon i did was super slow because the healer was dpsing more then healing, not healing the tank much. The dps were causing the problems. Content doesn't take into account of healer damage. So if you get slow runs look at the dps not the healer.
    Spoiler alert: it would have taken even longer if the healer wasn't dpsing.
    i seriously think you are just saying whatever pops into your head trying to prove ypur point.
    think before you type.
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  9. #289
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    aleph_null's Avatar
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    Aleph Alpha
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    The highest AoE DPS order goes like this...

    1. SMN
    2. BLM and MNK (shockingly tied)

    Now I'm not going to say WHMs can't do DPS... but to think they outdamage the rest of the pack is... well.... living in a fantasy world.
    Aoe dps is a bit tricky though, especially in raids. For example in a9s, smn is especially good because they can aoe down the adds with minimal dps loss on the boss (just bane and deathflare), while blm must gimp their single target dps to aoe down the adds by using fire2/flare. Also there are times when you'd rather hold your cds while killing the adds. In short duration and without dps buffs, I'd say whm has pretty good aoe burst (idk how good it is compared to blm/smn without cds though).
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  10. #290
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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    Yeah I like totally believe you and stuff...

    https://www.fflogs.com/rankings/13#metric=dps

    I'm looking at the rankings here... and... errm there's no WHMs here in the top category... and it is showing their damage DPS...

    You're either living in your own world... or... if your WHM side is out damaging your SMN side... then the likely culprit is yourself.

    The SMNs are at about 4K DPS, the WHMs are at about 2K.

    And there's more...

    The highest AoE DPS order goes like this...

    1. SMN
    2. BLM and MNK (shockingly tied)

    Now I'm not going to say WHMs can't do DPS... but to think they outdamage the rest of the pack is... well.... living in a fantasy world.
    preeeeety sure they were talking about dungeon runs. Ya know "large packs"
    and if we're talking dungeons and aoes, bards can absolutely wreck that sheet as well
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