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    This is just a difference is what metric is used to measure what's "optimal". VeliusVire, you are probably measuring it as "resulting in the fastest run possible". Vorx is probably measuring it as "the most stress free run possible". I would say that both are valid metric, as long as both of you enjoy the game more by utilizing said metric. The problem comes when two players with different mindset are put together in the same party, which is the crux of the issue here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ananda View Post
    This is just a difference is what metric is used to measure what's "optimal". VeliusVire, you are probably measuring it as "resulting in the fastest run possible". Vorx is probably measuring it as "the most stress free run possible". I would say that both are valid metric, as long as both of you enjoy the game more by utilizing said metric. The problem comes when two players with different mindset are put together in the same party, which is the crux of the issue here.
    To be honest the only time this crap comes up is on here, in game people welcome all the freedom stuff. Classes, DPS healers. Sad really the forum is so closed minded..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    To be honest the only time this crap comes up is on here, in game people welcome all the freedom stuff. Classes, DPS healers. Sad really the forum is so closed minded..
    As close minded as a healer who decides that as soon as they join a party they get to ignore half of their actions and abilities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    As close minded as a healer who decides that as soon as they join a party they get to ignore half of their actions and abilities?
    Close minded in terms of telling people they have to play the way you all deem is "right."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    Close minded in terms of telling people they have to play the way you all deem is "right."
    Honestly though. .. how is standing there actively waiting to heal beneficial? Healers have a very diverse tool kit. If all someone is doing is keeping the tank topped up they have no need for regen, asylum, medica 2, divne seal, swiftcast, tetra, presence of mind, virus, eye for an eye, benediction. All these moves help a healer get the tank back to full, or delay when you will need to get him back up. If you utilize these moves to their fullest it allows you a lot of time to dps.
    Yeah, there is a learning curve required. Yeah you might cause a death or 2. But honestly I'd prefer to have people try to make the run go faster.

    Not to mention if you babysit the tanks hp the tank now has no need to use their mitigation and self healing tools.
    I'm sorry if this seems like I'm insulting you but it's not that hard, and it's way more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    As close minded as a healer who decides that as soon as they join a party they get to ignore half of their actions and abilities?
    Just...don't bother with that one, it's like running a marathon while you're malnourished :3c
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeliusVire View Post
    Just...don't bother with that one, it's like running a marathon while you're malnourished :3c
    Same goes for you "elites"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    Same goes for you "elites"
    elite
    eɪˈliːt,ɪˈliːt/Submit
    noun
    1.
    a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

    I'll take being an Elite, you need to find an actual insult that doesn't function as a compliment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    To be honest the only time this crap comes up is on here, in game people welcome all the freedom stuff. Classes, DPS healers. Sad really the forum is so closed minded..
    lol Are you playing the same game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    lol Are you playing the same game?
    Are you? I run with people who are much, much more open minded then any of you complaining over Healer DPs seem able to be..
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