Healers that don't want to DPS are like DPSes who refuse to move out of AoEs.

[Leigaon]

Funny you say that, because just moments ago, as my static and I finally downed A11S...

Congrats!

I think where the OP is coming from is when there's times when you're sitting there and there's nothing to do. The tank is sustaining themselves, you have a full MP bar and the DPS are dodging. These down times are when you can do some damage. I think we're all pointing in different directions here, but the end result is the same as every single other thread that has been started like this one. They just didn't state it in a constructive way and came off as salty rather than helpful.

Like you said though whether it is DPS or keeping your people alive, you win you did good.

I think if endgame didn't seem to be littered so much with hard enrages dps arguments would again be less of a problem.

Just curious, say when a new tier of content comes out. Usually new gear / item level or an ease of raising the item level comes with it. How long would you say it would take it for a party to gear up and pass those DPS checks without the need for a healer? If any time frame at all. I have no knowledge of Savage so keep that in mind, just curious.

[Kallera]

Congrats!

I think where the OP is coming from is when there's times when you're sitting there and there's nothing to do. The tank is sustaining themselves, you have a full MP bar and the DPS are dodging. These down times are when you can do some damage. I think we're all pointing in different directions here, but the end result is the same as every single other thread that has been started like this one.

I think if endgame didn't seem to be littered so much with hard enrages dps arguments would again be less of a problem.

[Judge_Xero]

I think if endgame didn't seem to be littered so much with hard enrages dps arguments would again be less of a problem.

Sort of. The reason for the enrage is because DD classes are expected to do optimal damage while performing mechanics. If there was no enrage then players could essentially spam 1,2,3 while dodging and doing mechanics.

The reason the healer DPS is an argument is because it's more than possible to do and is required for clearing content undergeared where every bit of DPS matters.

So if it's possible to do undergeared for content then it's more than possible to do while overgeared. I don't see it ever disappearing because otherwise the healing checks while being undergeared would be too extreme, unless SE decides to change the MP ratio of spells where healers have either much more MP and DPS spells cost a truck load of MP or healing spells cost significantly less MP, are more potent and basically need to be spammed in Raids.