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    Sorry Yoshi, but if you award the best weapon in the game by winning the lottery...

    ...Then I have absolutely no interest in playing your game. Was a fun trip, but I think all good things come to an end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicno View Post
    I'm gonna clarify this once and for all. The reason why I'm so upset about this entire situation is because this completely breaks the reward structure in the game. Say whatever you want about "waaah you don't need the weapon to do the content", "it has random stats", "the chances of getting one for your job are so slim", etc. That doesn't change the fact that those weapons are currently the biggest carrot to get in the game and you get them by "winning the lottery". When you give the best reward by being extremely lucky with absolutely no ties to player skill (and the effort put into it is relative depending on said luck, if you got it on your 1st run or after 3 months) that tells me that the entire reward structure in the game is a joke and I shouldn't take it seriously anymore. Regardless of if it's a precedent for the future or not the reward structure IS ALREADY A JOKE, right now, this very minute. (By the way, for those who insist about the raid gear still making raiding worth it, there are jobs like NIN that may not use drops from A11S nor A12S at all now. That means only doing 9 and 10, where you can get carried in a corpse bag even on cross-server pf).

    After the release I stopped playing for a few days and waited for the PAX panel to see if there was any new development about it. Was hoping for Yoshi to say that they may be considering adjustments, or that this is part of a bigger plan with more stuff coming soon (like maybe ways to upgrade raid weapons/gear), etc. Instead his response was that everybody should "calm down" and that this is perfectly fine just because it's rare to get it. That response made me feel really insulted for the reasons I mentioned in the former paragraph.

    Now I gotta say, with a cooler head my reaction on my original post may have been overblown. As someone at some point in the thread mentioned there's still a lot more to the game and this is just a part of it. But then when I try to do anything I find that I lost a lot of motivation to put the effort.
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    Last edited by Sicno; 03-14-2017 at 05:06 AM.
    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

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    Yoshida says Anima is still the strongest weapon :^)
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    Don't you think the best weapons in the game that are better than what we have now will be coming in Stormblood? My opinion you are quitting over ridiculous reason when better stuff will be released in the expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Remus View Post
    Yoshida says Anima is still the strongest weapon :^)
    TFW the head behind the entire game is totally clueless about how stats work.
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    Naoki Yoshida:
    ...Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554 at 1:14:22

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    Don't you think the best weapons in the game that are better than what we have now will be coming in Stormblood? My opinion you are quitting over ridiculous reason when better stuff will be released in the expansion.
    Well you could save 3 months sub fee if you unsub and wait until then and not play slot machine I guess. Everything you do now is going to be mostly meaningless right if all the good stuff is going to be in SB?
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    Take care!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    Don't you think the best weapons in the game that are better than what we have now will be coming in Stormblood? My opinion you are quitting over ridiculous reason when better stuff will be released in the expansion.
    By that token, why would I invest work into Stormblood when there's probably another expansion over the horizon that will invalidate all the work in there ? Hmm ??

    At the moment we are in 'endgame' mode -- people have worked for their gears over the various patch cycles, cleared their content and in general are sitting on feelings of satisfaction what they have achieved and obtained through working for it. Raids have been completed, incredible amounts of time, effort and resources have been poured into anima weapons and there's this sense of relief "we've got that all sortted, now we can start ticking off our Heavensward bucket lists while we build up towards the new expansion"

    And then comes Diadem. Which, in one shot, for ridiculously low entry/skill/effort requirements, awards (albeit on a slim chance) something better than a population majority has spent the ENTIRE patch cycle working for.

    And it mystifies you why people are upset ?

    An as an added insult to injury, Yoshi-P ambles in and proclaims it not to be a big deal. The mind absolutely boggles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    Well you could save 3 months sub fee if you unsub and wait until then and not play slot machine I guess. Everything you do now is going to be mostly meaningless right if all the good stuff is going to be in SB?
    Well I suppose that would be one way to look at it, but as others have said Anima still is the best weapon.
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    See you in SB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    Don't you think the best weapons in the game that are better than what we have now will be coming in Stormblood? My opinion you are quitting over ridiculous reason when better stuff will be released in the expansion.
    People like you still don't get it. It's not so much about the weapon's strength that bothers people, it's more about the principle that SE is going with. What's to stop them from doing something like this again in Stormblood, especially if people are so nonchalant about it or even agreeing with the path SE is taking?
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    "SCREW IT GOING WHM AST CAN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES" -Noob Healer in Seal Rock 10/17/2015

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