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  1. #391
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TaurielKyudo View Post
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    Given statweights, a 280 weapon is by default better than a 275. The substats are icing on the cake. And maybe for some people it does, maybe they felt that the reward for their efforts was to have one of (if not the) best weapons in the game. Maybe they're here thinking, "Why is the diadem weapon 280? Why not 275, so it would at least be an equivalent option instead of a blatantly better one?"
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  2. #392
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    AureliusDraconium's Avatar
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    Miss Auriana
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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    I do think its a bad choice to make the weapons 280 instead of 270. For 2 years, I have not capped tomes or actually grinded gear because of how quickly gear gets invalidated in this game and how the req ilvl to enter new content is fairly low to what is available..the real culprit in my opinion. I sub every now and again to run the content I want to run but do not grind. I actually play WoW just to get my gear fix and to grind heavily even though FFXIV was my first mmo. I wish i could play FFXIV and get the same feeling but I don't. I love this game and wish i could spend every moment of free time playing it if it had better itemization. However, the devs have clearly stated that their target audience is the gamer who subs & unsubs to play other games and who wishes to get catched up quickly. Which is a very unique strategy for a mmorpg to take considering if you unsub from WoW, Blizzard asks in a survey why you are unsubbing and to which mmo you possibly are moving to because its goal is to keep players playing the game. I believe that the 280 was added with its low drop chance to extend the life of the diadem but honestly knowing this community, people will be done with it once they get the two new minions or finish the mount grind. Speaking of how the community loves minions/mounts/glamour, never understood why something like diadem has so few of these rewards when the community loves this kind of stuff.
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    Last edited by AureliusDraconium; 03-10-2017 at 09:18 AM.

  3. #393
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    Elim's Avatar
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by yexie View Post
    I don't really understand why your motivation would be gone now.
    Yeah, you really don't understand. I'm not angry and it's not a big deal to me, just disappointed to see something this lame from a dev team I respect. This reminds me of something SWTOR's dev team would do.

    I don't care what other people get. I lost my motivation to put time into relic since it's already worthless to me again. I can already get a better weapon.
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    Last edited by Elim; 03-10-2017 at 09:14 AM.
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  4. #394
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    I'll say what I said in the other thread. I dont play the game for ilvl upgrades or special raider gear status. I play for fun. Them adding a weapon better than the multiple anima weapons I have doesn't bother me at all. People acting like this is a slap in the face are severely overreacting over nothing. I raid for fun, if the raid isn't fun, I dont do it. Alex has been not fun 80% of the time. Coil was fun 95% of the time.

    Hopefully Omega will be fun. If its not, I won't do it. Other than that, who cares.

    If THIS is the last straw for you, then there wasn't much holding you here to begin with.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 03-10-2017 at 09:17 AM.

  5. #395
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    yexie's Avatar
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    Nori Nawani
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    cause what's the point? just do diadem instead.
    Like I said, by the time you get the weapon you want from diadem you'll be done with the relic.
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  6. #396
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    yexie's Avatar
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    Nori Nawani
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TaurielKyudo View Post
    It literally is not a slap in the face. Those of us who did our relics - me included! - or savage, still have our weapons. It's not like they are useless now that a higher weapon is out, because you're not even guaranteed to get the 280 weapon, let alone an actual useful one.

    Is it really this easy to make all these people fly off the handles and shout that their time and commitment is now worthless? You still did the damn quest, you still beat savage, which is more than what most "casuals" can say. Jesus, is your accomplishment really diminished that much because some people can maybe, MAYBE, get a slightly better weapon than you? I'm just so confused. It literally doesn't affect you.
    Exactly...
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  7. #397
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by yexie View Post
    Like I said, by the time you get the weapon you want from diadem you'll be done with the relic.
    exactly. so if I would be done with the 275 wep by the time i get the 280 wep, why do the 275 wep?
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  8. #398
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    TaurielKyudo's Avatar
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    Tauriel Kyudo
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    Famfrit
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
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    IF you get a weapon, yes, technically, it's better (BRD damage is only +1, so in all honesty, compared to the other jobs, that's not that big an increase). The thing is, they still got a powerful weapon out of the anima quest line or doing savage. That hasn't changed. I agree that 275 would have been more logical, but they did what they did to get people playing the content. But I'm not going to waste my energy and get all angry about someone else getting a better weapon. I enjoyed doing the anima, I had a great time doing that with my friends, and someone else getting a 280 isn't taking that away from me.
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  9. #399
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    Aosha's Avatar
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    Aosha Koz'ain
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    Odin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    So, do some effort, go clear Diadem, and you'll get the best weapon eventually.
    I'd just like to point out that getting the weapon is behind at least 4 layers of RNG.
    First, getting an emergency mission to show up. (I only had one all day).
    Secondly, getting a weapon drop from it at all.
    Thirdly, getting the weapon drop for the correct class.
    Fourthly, getting reasonable stats on it.

    That's too much RNG to say you'll get it eventually.
    And with all this, the one time the mission showed up for me, someone else got my main class' weapon, and it was better than anything I can get otherwise. I don't know whether to laugh or cry (I decided to just sit there in stunned silence).
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  10. #400
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aosha View Post
    I'd just like to point out that getting the weapon is behind at least 4 layers of RNG.
    First, getting an emergency mission to show up. (I only had one all day).
    Secondly, getting a weapon drop from it at all.
    Thirdly, getting the weapon drop for the correct class.
    Fourthly, getting reasonable stats on it.

    That's too much RNG to say you'll get it eventually.
    And with all this, the one time the mission showed up for me, someone else got my main class' weapon, and it was better than anything I can get otherwise. I don't know whether to laugh or cry (I decided to just sit there in stunned silence).
    I think everyone and their mum is missing out on this important fact in favor of that cane picture and hyperbole. :/
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