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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    a 1 percent drop rate makes it seem not even worth it really
    Which begs the question: What is its purpose?

    Is it to get people to play the Diadem? With a drop rate like that, why waste your time?

    The only thing the addition of this weapon is guaranteeing is the further split of the game's community. The backlash was so easily predictable, it almost hurts. It worries me that the dev team didn't see this coming, because its either they weren't capable of predicting this, or they DID predict it, and just didn't care.

    Stormblood needs to get here like now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    Which begs the question: What is its purpose?

    Is it to get people to play the Diadem? With a drop rate like that, why waste your time?

    The only thing the addition of this weapon is guaranteeing is the further split of the game's community. The backlash was so easily predictable, it almost hurts. It worries me that the dev team didn't see this coming, because its either they weren't capable of predicting this, or they DID predict it, and just didn't care.

    Stormblood needs to get here like now.
    This is all part of the biggest concerns about it. It's annoying that some random person will likely have a better weapon than my relic by the end of the week but it's not world ending.

    The big problem for me is that SE has shaken my hope that they learned anything from all of HW. They created terrible content, withdrew terrible content for a few months, re-released terrible content now with FATE farm (because everyone loves FATE farms right?! People kept doing them for a long time so they have to love it.) and then slapped a BiS weapon inside of it as a carrot on a stick to get people to keep trying to do it. Now they may look at it and not realize that it's terrible content because Hey, people are doing it, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    It's okay, these players still won't be able to skip soar with an i280 weapon.
    And THAT is the real problem, they give high end weapons to people that don't even know how to play at high level.

    I already seen people quit parties because one member had a PotD weapon.

    After 4 relics, I think that for SB I´ll just live with primal/raid weapons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    With this little update and the i280 weapon SE litterally set the world on fire by making 2 years grind (relic weapon) and months of investment (savage clears) useless.
    The worst thing is that they launched this 280weap' just 9 days after the last relic step.
    This surprises you? It not like SE hasn't done a move like this before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeros_cl View Post
    And THAT is the real problem, they give high end weapons to people that don't even know how to play at high level.

    I already seen people quit parties because one member had a PotD weapon.

    After 4 relics, I think that for SB I´ll just live with primal/raid weapons
    I seen such people in full sets of Augmented scripture gear. Quitting over someone having a PoD weapon tells me he quitter is equally bad at the game as those you making fun of.
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    Last edited by Ogulbuk; 03-10-2017 at 02:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    Which begs the question: What is its purpose?

    Is it to get people to play the Diadem? With a drop rate like that, why waste your time?
    Because some people will only do content that will potentially give them bigger numbers, the Coven weapons are bait to get them to do Diadem in the hope that they get the 777 jackpot.

    Other players are going to use the i265 pink gear to gear up their other jobs for SB. Other are going to be farming for the new Minions.


    The only thing the addition of this weapon is guaranteeing is the further split of the game's community. The backlash was so easily predictable, it almost hurts. It worries me that the dev team didn't see this coming, because its either they weren't capable of predicting this, or they DID predict it, and just didn't care.

    Stormblood needs to get here like now.
    They likely predicted it and realized that the storm will blow over after a few days when players comprehend that these weapons will not be anywhere near common.

    You only have a 1 in 72 chance of getting a weapon with a 1 in 13 chance of getting a specific weapon and the Emergency Mission will not always happen and is easy to fail.

    Players have a little more than a 1% chance of getting a weapon and a bit more than a .1% chance of getting the specific weapon they want on top of a rare chance of seeing the event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    a 1 percent drop rate makes it seem not even worth it really , much rather have a higher drop rate and a lower item level like 260 or 265
    But, a lower item level would render it useless, non one would grind for it at all. By making it a higher ilvl, it piques the interest of players and a low drop rate guarantees it won't become as common as muck too quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    Players have a little more than a 1% chance of getting a weapon and a bit more than a .1% chance of getting the specific weapon they want on top of a rare chance of seeing the event.
    The rarity of the weapon doesn't matter if SE internalizes the message that they can band-aid half baked ideas with incredible amounts of RNG and top-tier gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    But, a lower item level would render it useless, non one would grind for it at all. By making it a higher ilvl, it piques the interest of players and a low drop rate guarantees it won't become as common as muck too quickly.
    But who has a 270 or 275 weapon for every job that they play I dono maybe people do tho, and so far nobody is sayin anything about weapon drops just talkin about gear drops, and Id say weapons are the main thing people need atm gear is super easy to get. A better drop rate for a lower level weapon would of done fine to me but who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    But who has a 270 or 275 weapon for every job that they play I dono maybe people do tho, and so far nobody is sayin anything about weapon drops just talkin about gear drops, and Id say weapons are the main thing people need atm gear is super easy to get. A better drop rate for a lower level weapon would of done fine to me but who knows.
    Personally I'd like for both options. See the thing is, every time there has been a new weapon that either barely matched the ilvl of the best available at the time, or was weaker, people have basically said "Well, what's the point in that? No way I'm wasting time on a weaker weapon." It would not take long before people started posting that Diadem II was DOA because of that.

    So putting in the best available in Diadem II as a ilvl 260/265 weapon would have done nothing and gone no where with that part of our community - I mean, how many times have you heard the sentiment that someone won't run something if there's nothing in it for them?

    But if they include a stronger weapon, even though it has an anemic drop rate, they remove that argument, and give every player a reason to do it.
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