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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Problem is, jump is only an animation in the majority of MMOs that have it. It doesn't even let you bypass obstacles or explore more areas (which btw, the game has to be designed to be explorable via jump/swimming.) So all it would be is just adding an animation.

    Yet most MMOs it's not, which is why there are many that don't see the need for it. If this MMO was an Ys game, you better believe there better be a proper jump feature implemented.

    Game has to be designed for it, it wouldn't promote anything really if it's just a feature slapped in (which it generally is in most games, notice how swimming segments are all generally the same?)
    Jen o Jen, :< i have to say you are wrong about Jump being an animation only...

    During my days in WoW, especially Burning Crusade period, Jump is needed to avoid several laser beams and many skills that burns the floor that i need to evade, so yes, jump has it purpose in most games even MMOs.
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    The quality of graphics will be the same across all three, but depending on your system, it’ll be about how many characters can you display… how many effects can you display, draw distance.
    You know i thought they was not going to limit the PC on graphic and allow us to have the best graphic by the look of this seem we going to be limit to PS3 graphic wise? or maybe i'm reading it wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    You know i thought they was not going to limit the PC on graphic and allow us to have the best graphic by the look of this seem we going to be limit to PS3 graphic wise? or maybe i'm reading it wrong.
    You can have the highest quality graphic you can get for your PC, but for the PS3, it will go to the Medium as it's max. because of somehow resolution perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce View Post
    Jen o Jen, :< i have to say you are wrong about Jump being an animation only...

    During my days in WoW, especially Burning Crusade period, Jump is needed to avoid several laser beams and many skills that burns the floor that i need to evade, so yes, jump has it purpose in most games even MMOs.
    I didn't say all games, most games it's just an animation, because the game's engine still acts as if you're walking which means what you can't bypass by walking/running, you won't be able to while "jumping". This is why when people refer to Jump people go straight to WoW, because it's one of the few that actually made use of the jump feature. Even in Rift it's still kind of clunky because the engine doesn't know how to react at times. It's also a little weird in Tera as well, but that's more of a latency problem.

    Most MMOs didn't use it beyond giving you the illusion you're not glued down. Some even let you jump twice to do a flip, which served no purpose at all because monsters could still hit you. So yeah, only a select few MMOs actually made jump an important mechanic, it's generally an afterthought in most implementations.
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    [...]I wanted to add a jump feature.
    [...] a lot of players were against that idea.
    [...] I definitely want to add a jump feature.


    Why must you say these things.
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    RPGSite: Last question… what core mechanics—if any—are being drawn from western MMO developers? Such as the option to do things like swimming and jumping?
    Yoshida: I’m a very hardcore gamer, and one of the first things when I got onto FFXIV was that I wanted to add a jump feature. When I threw that out to the community, what surprised me was that a lot of players were against that idea. Their complaint was that you shouldn’t be able to jump in a FINAL FANTASY game!
    Just because it’s in all the other MMOs, does it fit with the image of FINAL FANTASY? For example, people didn’t want to see Lalafells jumping all around.
    Personally, I don’t like the fact that my character is bound to the ground, so I definitely want to add a jump feature.

    RPGSite: That’s interesting because they added a jump option to XIII-2, and I haven’t seen much negative reaction to that.
    Yoshida: Everyone probably wouldn’t mind if their character could jump, but maybe there’s a lot of people who just don’t want to see everyone else jumping!
    A lot of the Japanese players of XIV that only know about that game as well as FFXI, so they’re used to having a character that can’t jump. They don’t realize that you can jump in every other MMO in the world, so they have that aversion to it.
    This is why I really dislike the FF mmo community sometimes. They are so against change that even adding something that would be fun like Jump and would add to the game they have to sit there and complain about it. Stuff like jumping and flying mounts are pretty standard in any MMOs now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    I didn't say all games, most games it's just an animation, because the game's engine still acts as if you're walking which means what you can't bypass by walking/running, you won't be able to while "jumping". This is why when people refer to Jump people go straight to WoW, because it's one of the few that actually made use of the jump feature. Even in Rift it's still kind of clunky because the engine doesn't know how to react at times. It's also a little weird in Tera as well, but that's more of a latency problem.

    Most MMOs didn't use it beyond giving you the illusion you're not glued down. Some even let you jump twice to do a flip, which served no purpose at all because monsters could still hit you. So yeah, only a select few MMOs actually made jump an important mechanic, it's generally an afterthought in most implementations.
    So if Yoshi actually make the jump to be more a featured base (dodge ground spell like quake or something) then jump going to be valid for a reason :| don't you think so? They are Square Enix you know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post


    Why must you say these things.
    Because Yoshi P knows better then the majority of the FF online community that Jump would be a good feature.
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    Jumping should not be added i thought SE listening to there player base? just because it's in other game does not mean it have to be in this one and Jumping in the other FF is not really jumping like in wow and such.

    @Zumi: give me 3 reason we need jump in FFXIV? the only type of jump i would allow is There flying rocks and you have to jump to each one to get to a flying city or jump to one side to other but jumping like in wow? there no point and it look dumb.
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    In all due respect, i do not want jump in FFXIV, unless is just to get over to another terrain.

    :| kind of tired to just play with what we have now, having jump added to the battle... ima gonna give up playing as it is too much for me to handle! xD
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