New Player Got Kicked During Lost City of Mhach BY A MENTOR

[AmalonStar]

I like how the word "elitist" is used here. "OMG a silent mentor, u elitist idiot you're a shame omg omg mentor is baaaad booouh"

You're ridiculous, besides mentors and newcomers there is human beings, if mentors don't wanna use the novice chat that's all up to them.
You have no obligations, that's the way this system has been designed.

When signing up to become a mentor you agree to be actively participating as a mentor and helping new players and now returning players.That means if you have a first timer in a dungeon or a new player asks a question directly to you or in the novice chat, you answer questions to the best of your knowledge often times other mentors are quicker in the novice chat giving an answer than others but at least partake a little in the chat rather than everyone looking at your name in the mentor list and wondering if you have your chat turned off. It was all stated during your application process what is expected of mentors to be doing especially if you have your crown showing by your name all the time.

Now I'm not saying all mentors that are quiet in the NN are elitist or full of them self, and not all mentors in the NN have turned the chat filter off so it doesn't show but I'll guarantee the ones that became mentors more so selfish reasons have likely have done this so they don't have to see it probably not all of them but a very large majority have.

Now on those defending ppl kicking newer players from newer content sometimes it simply happens with no warning at all from your party off it, for example back when the city of Mhach was first released when I found the time to have first done it myself I got kicked from it while trying to learn the mechanics of it. Not a single person had said anything to me about anything during that run, next thing I knew I had been booted I got booted a few times while trying to learn the mechanics of that raid and no one explaining anything to help knowing I was new to it and trying to learn the mechanics. I can understand kicking someone that has been told numerous times what the mechanics are and how to avoid extra dmg but there are alot of players that simply kick others out without saying anything or trying to help for their own selfish gain.

Edit:

I actually just double checked what the dialogue said when you sign up as a mentor, becoming a mentor YOU have CHOOSEN to volunteer your time and knowledge with new and returning players. You're supposed to turn your mentor status off if you're focusing on your own things in game having it set as on you're expected to do the role you had signed up to be doing.

[Train88]

Doing frequent raids, I've come across 2 kinds of people:
-Those not reading the fights
-Those reading the fights

One of them is an asset, the other one is a liability. If the guy got kicked, the whole party most likely voted him out.

[Wildsprite]

people act like mentor status is something special. honestly it's a joke.
it shouldn't be a joke but it really is. it's far too easy to get it.
and let's face it people who behave badly don't change when given a crown, They often get worse.
Many mentors get a bigger ego because of this status rather than actually being a mentor they think they should be treated like royalty.
here is an example of one Mentor in Weeping City: I had an AST with mentor status try to say s/he knew what they were doing when they were in party with a SCH they refused to swap to Diurnal Sect and demanded the SCH stop using their shields, even though the SCH was a much higher ilvl.

my point being, your friend got kicked by an impatient player you implying that mentor status changes the level of patience might work if achieving mentor status taught patience, it does not.

This will not change because this game like all others that cater to the casual crowd promotes impatience and laziness on some levels.

please note I am not saying ALL Mentors. I know quite a few really good players who are happy to teach anyone and have mentor status. all of them agree with me that mentor status is far too easy to get though.

You're supposed to turn your mentor status off if you're focusing on your own things in game having it set as on you're expected to do the role you had signed up to be doing.

it automatically turns it back on if you end up in an instance with a leaf. not sure if there is a way to stop this or not.

[Train88]

Bottom line is people will get kicked mentor no mentor. Those people will complain on the forums mentor no mentor. Business as usual, except for the recent sale...

[Falmer]

OP and mentor threads,

[Adire]

I hope the mentors who get abused by new players start posting about it soon too.

[Lauront]

TBF, I'd do the same.

[Lauront]

Then sorry, but you really shouldn't be one in the first place.
Explaining mechs doesn't really take up that much time.

Again, if you want a smooth run, get a full party. Or leave and eat a penalty.

Eh, if people just click yes to the ready check and don't speak up, they have it coming.

[SenSaitoru]

I've seen bad on both sides to be honest,when I was new I had a mentor that was overly rude to me. As soon as we loaded in the dungeon,he gave me a hard time, after I ignored him for a while he started picking on my gf who also ignored him he was rude the whole time though. I was in another dungeon run and I was leveling my dragoon.... (insert your dragoon jokes here... you good? Alright) anyway we had a tank who would not use flash the mentor suggested he use flash only to get this response "you're not my dad" "and "You don't pay my sub." He never used flash the entire run. My point in bringing these dungeon runs up is because it's not just mentors being rude,there's rudeness on both sides.

[Miste]

I hope the mentors who get abused by new players start posting about it soon too.

I could share a lot of tales about what I've personally seen in DF where mentors were harassed for no reason...would take me 2-3 days to type it all though; not a good use of my time :x

Seen bad apples on both sides. In the end people are going to act like they want to act. A status icon next to your player name doesn't somehow change the personality of the person behind the computer screen and if it somehow does affect a player's personality in a negative way that person obviously wasn't really nice to begin with and likely they would have acted the same way if put in the same situation even without the crown.

Some people keep saying people have a bad attitude as a mentor because the crown inflates their ego or they use it as a status symbol...that's a bit of a stretch. If a simple crown icon can turn an otherwise nice player suddenly into an egotistical rude player who can be very uncooperative and insulting towards others....do you really think it was a tiny picture of a crown next to their character name that did that? I am quite sure it is likely that player just had that personality to begin with :/