4.0 Scholar predictions

[LadyKairi]

Ive used it to ignore one and thats the pushback on Sophia ex. Getting a cit there stops the knock back and its damage.

Ahhh I completely forgot about that! Then, yes I have used it to skip a mech, but that was the only time. I really need to get back into farming primals...

Also, I wanna say ast shields have the same effect as sch shields when crit. I mean, I was in dun scaith a bit ago. The second to last boss for their big aoe after adds... I put up aspected Helios. My friend had the most Rez sickness you can get. I spammed asp ben on her til I got a crit. She was the only person to not take damage. I could be wrong, but couldn't be a coincidence?

[LadyKairi]

Ignore my stupidity. I'm exhausted

[Risvertasashi]

She was the only person to not take damage. I could be wrong, but couldn't be a coincidence?

A crit shield is very powerful even without a special proc.

[technole]

Ha, nowadays in Sophia Ex you don't even get the head/pushback with good, top tier DPS. I remember deployment wasn't even up for the ultimate anymore.

I really don't think they will change too much on the idea of being in Cleric and using fairy cooldowns. That is the best part of the job. Plus we got a Lustrate "nerf" this xpac since that cannot be used in cleric when it used to be. Just like 3.0 and Gordias Savage, in 4.0 we'll probably have to heal a bit more because of MND leveling gap (and who knows if they decide to cut down Embrace again), plus our MP pool will be rather minimal again.

In a good raid setup you are always depending on using Whispering Dawn as your first go-to for AoE healing. Saving your WHM/AST a GCD and them being able to pop some damage in. That is how savage speed running usually works with Scholars picking up more of the AoE healing, whether its a pop-out of cleric stance to Indom, to using Whispering Dawn practically on-cooldown when possible. If anything they should boost Fey Wind a bit, or make Selene a bit more appealing because nowadays we are just whoring her out for Fey Wind pulls/switches in-place of Fey Illumination.

[Feyona]

Ha, nowadays in Sophia Ex you don't even get the head/pushback with good, top tier DPS. I remember deployment wasn't even up for the ultimate anymore.


In a good raid setup you are always depending on using Whispering Dawn as your first go-to for AoE healing. Saving your WHM/AST a GCD and them being able to pop some damage in. That is how savage speed running usually works with Scholars picking up more of the AoE healing, whether its a pop-out of cleric stance to Indom, to using Whispering Dawn practically on-cooldown when possible. If anything they should boost Fey Wind a bit, or make Selene a bit more appealing because nowadays we are just whoring her out for Fey Wind pulls/switches in-place of Fey Illumination.

Well Im just used to average groups really, new to ast, so not sure what noct can do with shields as I play Diu in raids, but was told to use selene when OH. I still feel sch doesnt need changes or nerfs to its healing only though.

[technole]

Well Im just used to average groups really, new to ast, so not sure what noct can do with shields as I play Diu in raids, but was told to use selene when OH. I still feel sch doesnt need changes or nerfs to its healing only though.

Eos is too good, because all her cool downs help the other healer as well. Fey Covenant and cutting down magic damage means less to heal, and anytime you are helping yourself, and the other healer from damage taken that is more DPS time that can be put onto the boss.

Free Rouse/Whispering Dawn every minute, helping your other healer not have to pop a AH/Medica II or even in-addition to it help in heavier AoE situations also cuts down on any top-offs for supplemental raid damage. Fey Illumination when you need that extra mileage. I don't think they need to change anything on the Eos side of things, it's so good the way it is now. Selene on the other hand could use some changes.

That is the thing about synergy, better groups and speed kills don't look at themselves as "main healer" or "off-healer", but rather two healers and using the best skills for the situation. That is how both healers can have pretty high DPS, compared to just one and the other very low.

[Vulcwen]

What is really nice about a deployed critlo is that it can create special moments when doing content.. you can't rely on it for a strategy, but if it happens it can be amazing. Because it can't be used in strategies, it's not that powerful, but it's ability to create fun for players involved is great, so I'd not like to lose that. A deployed critlo also rarely adds DPS to the group (an exception is sophia ex due to that knockback), and if it does, it's by far not as significant as balance.. it's a powerful defensive thing.

Balance, being a RNG-based powerful offensive ability has kind of the opposite effect on fun for players compared to critlo.. it's so potent, you'll HAVE to put it in your strategy even tho it's not reliable enough to do so, resulting in RNG-farm runs for balance luck if you want to speedrun. It's still a good experience when you're lucky, but it's also annoying if you're not lucky.. something critlo doesn't really suffer from.

So what's my point here? The goal is to create a fun game, so you need to consider what abilities contribute to fun moments (and annoyances) as well when balancing the game, if you focus only on giving players equal chances, you'll often make the game less fun than you'd like. Balancing SCH should probably come from balancing the fairy, I don't think critlo needs to be touched at all. So the question is, how can you balance the fairy while also making SCH more fun to play?

[Jonnycbad]

Didn't they nerf Embrace drastically? It used to heal a larger proportion of whag SCH healed in 2.x but in 3.0 they nerfed it into the ground. We thought this was just a rebalance of the curve and by the time the final raid tier came out, the potency pf Embrace would be roughly the same as it once was from the new max ilvl MND. This has shown to not be the case. I can't see them nerfing Embrace any more to be honest.
Maybe they'll nerf crit adlo to be a 1.5x shield bonus instead of the double'd effect it has now. And perhaps nerf Aetherflow to give a potent Refresh that restores maybe 30% of a SCH's MP but over the course of 20 seconds instead of instantly.

[Rawrz]

Eos is too good, because all her cool downs help the other healer as well. Fey Covenant and cutting down magic damage means less to heal, and anytime you are helping yourself, and the other healer from damage taken that is more DPS time that can be put onto the boss.

Free Rouse/Whispering Dawn every minute, helping your other healer not have to pop a AH/Medica II or even in-addition to it help in heavier AoE situations also cuts down on any top-offs for supplemental raid damage. Fey Illumination when you need that extra mileage. I don't think they need to change anything on the Eos side of things, it's so good the way it is now. Selene on the other hand could use some changes.

Silent Dusk becomes Fey Charm. Fey Charm- A single target has its magic vulnerability reduced by 10% for 8 seconds. CD 60.

BOOM. SELENE IS A CONTENDER FOR THE CROWN.... Lolol.

What i really want are pet skills at 60. Silent Dusk stays at 40 and get Fey Charm at 60. At 60 I want to see Eos get a single target buff that makes the next healing spell make a shield equal to or more likely 50% of the heal received. CD 40 seconds.

>:[ AST and WHM would get their own unique stuff too.

[Feyona]

Eos is too good, because all her cool downs help the other healer as well. Fey Covenant and cutting down magic damage means less to heal, and anytime you are helping yourself, and the other healer from damage taken that is more DPS time that can be put onto the boss.


That is the thing about synergy, better groups and speed kills don't look at themselves as "main healer" or "off-healer", but rather two healers and using the best skills for the situation. That is how both healers can have pretty high DPS, compared to just one and the other very low.

Yes ofc I just rarely get a good co healer to go OH dps nvr mind one to synergise with, thats a different ball game