Sorry long reply :S
We are in a digital era text can be converted to voice and there is many other tools available to make this a little easier.
I had already looked it up just chose to put “lol” as if you really think that by helping someone with mechanics via macros is manipulating them then you really need help. Asking people to ask for information on mechanics prior to an instance is called being prepared and so is having information on hand to answer potential questions/provide strats.Also gaslighting:
gas·light
ˈɡaslīt/
verb
gerund or present participle: gaslighting
manipulate (someone) by psychological means into questioning their own sanity.
which is something i have been seeing with this community. The pointing fingers and calling people lazy for something arbitrary, and nonsensical is gas lighting.
You are right most guides won’t say about speed running dungeons. Yet prior to 60 she would of seen this is the norm and expected from players. Players do not mind people who try, but pulling 3 mobs continuous through a dungeon is not trying. Gradually increasing size throughout the dungeon is trying, it also teaches the tank about taking high amounts of damage, using cooldowns at the best time, understanding the roles of healer and dps and what they can withstand.And mmo guides go out of date quickly as they are made at content launch. People will find and expect faster ways to do content after launch of it, as with being over geared. Take this thread for example, the guy was booted for not speed running a dungeon. This is not in the guide, yet is to be not expected. Gamer escape guides go out of date pretty fast, and rarely seen any updated. I did look, saw 1 gamer escape article about potd with out an accurate loot list as some links were missing.
As I have pointed out in other replys/comments, I would not expect players to read a guide prior to their first time in a dungeon. Although I would expect them to look up any mechanics they do not understand later on. i.e. what did that red eye do or what was that circle with the inward pointing arrows. Not all guides are video guides. Yes I don’t look up any guides prior to a fight I run with friends and we explain mechanics/figure them out over discord.the ff14 community is not jointed at all. Too many groups use different tactics, and expect everyone to know them right off the bat. Everyone learns differently, my g/f doesn't read/watch guides for a few reasons. And none of which are lazy. First off she as i stated, had access to them. She did try to use the ps3/ps4 broswer and they do not load up very well.
As for watching youtube guides, the way her brain works (as she told me) Is all she sees is clutter she can't tell what is going on in the video. She even watched 2 mtq videos and was left confused, more then anything. She learns best by doing the content first hand, as she is very quick to react, and strategist. Something she got from playing Legend pf zelda on the nes at 3 years old.
Although now I have some understanding of the fight (yes I am a kinaesthetic type of learner) I will take that away and go look up any parts that I didn’t understand/ask friends/fc etc. I will again do this before we enter the fight not during. As I wouldn’t expect people to go over the same things the following day/week etc.
Actually this is not true I too played FFXI and players were told to look up guides on Allakhzam, FFxiclopedia, FFXIAH and bluegartr.As she told me: ff11 players had no issue explaining fights so everyone was on the same page. And that was a grinder game she told me. They would do practice runs, to see the abilities and learn to deal with them before doing the fight for real. And these same players had real lives, families full time jobs. Heck my g/f said she only played ff11 2 hours a day for a year when she started. Never had an issue getting content done, she said.
I agree to an extent FFXIV is antisocial but it is also becoming a place where people want everyone else doing stuff for them. You say no one plans stuff out, yet when I mentioned having planned macros/guides on the fly you try to insult me.ff14 to her is extremely anti social, no one ask questions or try to plan stuff out to be on the same page. they expect to follow some guide that you need to go out of your way to find, which may not even be the guide people follow.
You are correct questions should not be discouraged but there is a time and place. I.e where do I get my job crystal from in the middle of Sastasha (hard). This type of question should not be asked in the middle of a 50 dungeon yet I have seen it.Like i stated, asking questions, no matter your personal opinion on how "dumb" it is should NEVER be discouraged. It takes a lot to ask a question in this community, and most of the time you are ignored. (personal experience, not stating as fact). to me ask questions isn't laziness, it shows a willingness to learn. Ignoring the question, or making jerk/lame reply calling them lazy, in reality being lazy.
If this person can’t read a written guide, tooltip, a more explained version of a tooltip on a website. Then what’s the point in me explaining the dungeon when it would be ignored. My explanation would also be weaker as I am cutting it down to very brief instructions to not hold up the rest of the group.Even a simply reply of "i'm sorry, i don't know. If you go to website x, if you have access to pc/smartphone, you might find out. good luck."
And ya you will get the troll on occasion telling you to kys or stfu.. but don't paint everyone with a wide brush, just because a person had no access or could understand a guide, or had trouble making out the semi vague tool tip. Doesn't make them lazy, just makes it more apparent we all are different, think differently, and learn differently.
Again this is for after your first attempt in a dungeon. Hell if I got kicked from a dungeon I would ask a friend to run with me and point out what I am doing wrong, not bury my head in the sand.
Also you keep saying they have no access to websites, but so far we have found out they can access reddit, forum and attempted to watch visual guides.
Some people can be masters just from a guide or video, while some need 1 to 1 player help with step by step explanations, while others still learn best by diving head first and pressing buttons.
You can only control you, remember that. I know the same goes for me and my g/f, I'm in no way nor have been defending anyone. I've just been saying my own opinion based on experience, and seeing my g/f struggle because of rude people.you can't help someone who wont help themselves

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