Can we have the option to not count unsync instances with our overall total SE?

[AnaviAnael]

Good grief, at this point I'm thinking you want a 1:1 comm to instance ration just to stroke your ego.

[bswpayton]

First: So you're admitting that tank and heals dont get them because they're performing very good but because they're more needed - so to

Like I mention earlier 9 times out of 10 if I cause a wipe and Im the tank Im not gettin a commendation so if you screw up and dont get a commendation thats clearly a judge on performance not just someone handing stuff out. I dont just hand out commendations if the healer causes us to wipe ten times then they are not gettin anything, I said in my above post that sure people give fluff commendations.


But most of the time at least , well I know I do and my friends give them based on if you did your job well in the dungeon not off of glamour. Im not lookin at what people are wearing in dungeons , Im there to get tomes or commendations or gear, this community isnt that friendly so to think that people give them just because is unrealistic.

And no its not a 1 to 1 ratio but if you are a good tank or healer and you run any content if you didnt have unsync runs clouding your instances you would or should have more commendations than instances based on role and performance, dps are just there like I said you could easily take one blm put them in any instance or dungeon aside from trail and clear every dungeon in the game just fine.

You cant have 3 dps and a healer or 1 tank and three dps and clear hardly anything in the game. So its a mixture of both performance and playing important roles in the game, to think people just are so nice they are just giving out commendations because your there is just simply not true. Because they will surely let you no when your screwing up , so why would they not let you know if your doing your job correctly.

[Underdog2204]

Ahh come on guys we all know this entire thing is rediculous and the op is never gonna get what they want so just laugh at their self imposed "punishment" (those damn dirty friends not letting people get coms) ^^

Nothing to talk about here its a simple "sucks to be you" xD

[Settiesama]

so why would they not let you know if your doing your job correctly.

What have you been taking and where can I get some? There are a lot of people, in game and out, who will see people doing their job correctly and just ignore that fact. In this case, leave instantly without saying thanks or in general leave without giving any commendation to anyone. Not everyone gives out commendations like you do, your mindset is not the same as everyone else's.

[Miste]

If you are a tank or healer even if some people dont give them, even if some like giving them to dps it is still a guide to whether or not you are preforming up to par. Because I can assure you if I mess up or cause a wipe 9 times out of 10 Im not gettin a commendation.

All I was asking was to not have filler in my instances , because it creates a fabricated illusion of how many instances Ive done where I could be judged on my gaming performance.

I'm pretty sure people have told you with factual reasons why that commendations in this game don't mean anything.

So you are just not listening to reason.

Commendations don't mean you are good at the game nor can they be used as a guide. That's just simple fact. The game itself is not the one giving the commendation. The commendations are coming from other players with a subjective view.

Some players commend simply for glamour/nice character look.
Some players commend simply for saying hello or chatting.
Some players commend for no real reason at all just to get the challenge log.
Some players commend on if they feel you did good (but this is subjective and unless you know this player has credentials to praise you then it means nothing)

So yeah sometimes you might get a commendation from someone who thinks you did good, but that doesn't mean you factually did good.

You would have to find someone with a lot of knowledge about the game and also a lot of knowledge about the class you are playing to get feedback on whether or not you are playing properly. Random PUGs in DF, unless you ask them, you don't know how much experience they have and being commended by someone with unknown credentials doesn't actually mean much.

Like if you were a medical student and you did a simulation operation as a test. Your friend (who is not studying medicine, is not a surgeon/doctor, and knows nothing of medical practices) and your PHD holding professor who has been a surgeon for 30 years is watching your performance.

After the test is over your friend cheers at you and tells you what a perfect job you did and that you didn't make any mistakes.
Your Professor on the other hand says he saw you make many critical mistakes.

Which one would you listen to?

I would think obviously the one with the credentials, your Professor.

In DF you don't know if any of them have credentials to tell you that you are doing good at the game or the job you are playing and like myself and others have stated some people give commendations for completely arbitrary reasons so any commendations you get doesn't mean you did good.

Some might commend you for skill, but how would you know when someone commended you for skill and not simply your glamour and if they have the knowledge about the game/job to actually be correct with their praise?

[Vidu]

And no its not a 1 to 1 ratio

Hold onto THIS thought and make it your new mantra: There is no 1:1 dungeon:commendation ratio. Say it with me! "There is no 1:1 ratio!"

The rest of your post was just a lot of "but I do it like this" and you have to realise that just because you do something its not the meta.

Commendations do mean something - but that something isnt "Hey, you're really good at this game!" but "Hey, I enjoyed playing with you (at least enough to klick your name in this list here)"

[Settiesama]

Commendations do mean something - but that something isnt "Hey, you're really good at this game!" but "Hey, I enjoyed playing with you (at least enough to klick your name in this list here)"

You missed the "I'm clicking you because I need challenge log and you're the random name I picked"

[AnaviAnael]

But most of the time at least , well I know I do and my friends give them based on if you did your job well in the dungeon not off of glamour. Im not lookin at what people are wearing in dungeons , Im there to get tomes or commendations or gear, this community isnt that friendly so to think that people give them just because is unrealistic.

And I know my friends give them out for other reasons.

1. I'll comm a bard who gave me foe's. Their overall DPS might not be great, but they used foe's.
2. There's a new person and they gave us a second chance point.
3. Ninja used Trick Attack. (You wouldn't believe how uncommon this is.)
4. Person was pleasant to be around.

Frame of reference is important here. You're talking about your friends, I'm talking about mine. Neither are a representation of the community on a whole. People comm for different reasons. Sometimes it's to pat you on the back, sometimes it can be an appreciation for something small, others it can be challenge log.

[bswpayton]

I'm pretty sure people have told you with factual reasons why that commendations in this game don't mean anything.

This is just simply not true If I where a dps main , and I have friends that are dps mains and they dont even have 300 commendations. So there is reason behind what im saying as a tank or healer, if this was the case dps numbers would level out to be the same as tank or healers but they are not.

Because dps are the least important role in the game so they by default if you chose to main a dps will have less commendations than a tank main or healer main. Someone has already said why dont you try doing it with a dps that means they are very aware that the dps role isnt important enough to really be commended the game just naturally gave them stronger abilities to do more damage.

So by the logic that people just give them out then we would have just as many dps getting commendations as a tank or healer and everyone in this thread has clearly said that they do not. So to just outright say that people get commendations for just random reasons is a lie , if you are a healer and almost every instance you let people die in did horrible people kicked you every other instance.

Then you will by default have way less commendations than a healer that knows what they are doing and doing a good job the very definition is set for what a commendation is by the game. Just because others chose to believe it means something else is on them, but u can not tell me that its not more than half based on game performance because I know that bad players will have less and so would dps because they have the least important roles.

Player commendations:
After each dungeon, trial and guildhest, you can give 1 player in the party a commendation. Commendation should be given to the most helpful, greatest contributing or most valuable player in the party.

[AnaviAnael]

Wow. There truly is no reasoning with you.