Please make Top 30 Feast mount obtainable through other means.

[LisannaTargaryen]

then apply your argument to legacy chocobo, legacy goobbue, whisper go, and whisper a-go-go.

only those were not limited to a few people. they where time exclusive



The thing is with rank exclusive mounts that are also time limited the reward goes to very few which in turn makes many people unhappy.

Imagine if the 30 first teams in each datacenter to kill a boss will get gear and the rest nothing. Its the same feeling.

Mounts in this game are like skins in League of Legends a vanity item. But League of legends doesnt limit their seasonal rewards to a flat number of people.

If you reach gold or higher in a specific season you will get the Special Skin.

Thats how it should had been. Reach Platinum and you get the mount. Also our seasons are too small for this kinds of rewards. 3 months is barely enough. League has 9 months of a season and 3 of preseason so if you miss it is your fault.

As long the rewards are a) time-limited b) skill limited and c) limited amount of total prizes there are gonna be a lot of unhappy people. Especially with stufff that people collect like mounts.

Imagine if TT Tournaments gave new cards every 2 weeks and only the top 3 will get it. It sucks. What we have is a rotation where the rewards are repeated.

Maybe that's a solution. The rewards to be rotated every other season.

Maybe lets say season 3 top 30 get Hellhound A. On season 4 top 30 get Hellhound B and Top 30-100 gets Hellhound A. Season 5 u give top 30 Hellhoun C ,30-100 B and u add to a vendor or achievement Hellhound A At least you satisfy more people that way while keeping it exclusive for a reasonable time and still you can incentive people to rank up and form teams and do PvP

[Shippuu]

then apply your argument to legacy chocobo, legacy goobbue, whisper go, and whisper a-go-go.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Your use of legacy items and the yokai as some sort of "gotcha" is incredibly weak. The situations for obtaining those items were not as strict or stringent, nor limited in the number of people who could actually obtain them.

They've already commented that the Yokai event could return in the future anyways. Not enough time has passed for it to be ruled out as never being obtainable again. Even then, there's a significant difference between a timed reward where everyone who puts in enough effort gets the reward, and the seasonal rewards where only a very small number of players are able to get them across a data center, let alone a server.

There is nothing wrong with making them available at a later time through another means.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

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Here's the bigger picture I feel many seem to miss here: If I can just get it later via achievements or some other method, why bother competing?

Let's not beat around the bush: many people dislike PvP without reason. If Season 3 didn't have a mount/minion reward, it would've passed just as quietly on their radars as 1 and 2 did. But for the first time there was something people wanted, even if they didn't want to PvP. Reality hit hard in that people weren't as good as they perhaps assumed, or they met resistance in the competition, and thus felt it was hopeless/too hard to get the prize.

Welcome to competitive anything ever.

Look at it this way: Would it make sense for the team that loses the Super Bowl to just go win a bunch of preseason games later and perhaps get a trophy or SB rings? (Because that's actually what's happening now. Some people who weren't top 10 grinded out the minion before the 10 winners got theirs.)

[Shippuu]

Here's the bigger picture I feel many seem to miss here: If I can just get it later via achievements or some other method, why bother competing?

Because those who like to compete, compete regardless of the rewards. They still get the rewards first before anyone else. If you don't want to compete because other people can get the same shinies as you later through a different means, that's on you. People still rush to world first for raids, and do savage raids competitively and regularly, despite the fact they could just wait for 6 months and get the stuff easier.

Look at it this way: Would it make sense for the team that loses the Super Bowl to just go win a bunch of preseason games later and perhaps get a trophy or SB rings? (Because that's actually what's happening now. Some people who weren't top 10 grinded out the minion before the 10 winners got theirs.)

What's your insistence on whack analogies that are in no way comparable to this situation? There's nothing stopping someone from having a fake Super Bowl trophy made for them if they wanted. Someone else getting a reward later doesn't invalidate the reward you got first. They've already set the precedence for this throughout the game in every aspect. This is no different. It's a common practice in MMO's.

[Titor]

Imagine if the 30 first teams in each datacenter to kill a boss will get gear and the rest nothing. Its the same feeling.

Other games do this and it's ok.

Reach Platinum and you get the mount.

Not everyone deserves first place.


I am all for non-exclusivity, I'm sure you can look back and see me arguing for the legacy tattoo and other things to be available. I was met with a resounding "no, we earned these things.". I accepted it and moved on, and persued my own exclusive earned things.

Now that my special item is under attack, I'll defend it as best I can. If you argue for complete non-exclusivity (bringing back all legacy mounts/items/tattoos, past pre-order bonuses, timed rewards, and other stuff) then I will support you.
Unless you are willing to do that for everyone and everything, please stop trying to lessen my accomplishments.

[Shippuu]

Other games do this and it's ok.

Just like other games allow people to get PvP season stuff later through other means and it's ok.

[Titor]

Just like other games allow people to get PvP season stuff later through other means and it's ok.

WoW keeps their top arena mounts exclusive

[Shippuu]

WoW keeps their top arena mounts exclusive

FFXIV =/= WoW

[EdwinLi]

I would prefer alternate skin/effect versions being obtained by other means not PvP.

Alternate skin/effect versions are more interesting that the same skin mount over and over again.

[SuperZay]

Here's the bigger picture I feel many seem to miss here: If I can just get it later via achievements or some other method, why bother competing?

How about fun, is that not enough nowdays? Many were doing lv50 Fold when there were no any leaderboards or exclusive rewards and there were much less salt and overall annoyances. A better solution is to just let PvP players have PvP specific rewards (like unique limit break animation which can be used only in PvP areas), because PvE rewards like minions and mounts bring only a conflict of interests with PvE players who are not interested in obtaining them through PvP. They cannot even use mounts or minions in The Feast, why give it to them?