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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousxSarcasm View Post
    This whole issue.... confuses me. Coms don't mean shite. I got 3 coms when I fell off Titan-normal my first run of it because everyone thought it was hilarious. I rarely get coms for optimizing my rotations as a DPS, but I'll walk away with 2-3 for being a half-assed WHM in low level content. :/
    I com for stuff like this too xD

    But yeah the only real measure of good performance using coms is to be a dps main... Like at lvl 60 getting them is hard as hell, nevermind in 8man stuff (will hardly ever get 1). Nice when I do get one coz it means someone noticed the effort I put in... The vast majority of people don't care though and just throw it to the tank/healer (if they even com at all).

    Even then it's not a good way to measure to performance... I know people that give out coms for glamours.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    I dont have the patience to play dps even tho I still get them on dps as well, but I dont have time to wait 30 mins for a dungeon then do the instance for another 30. Tank ques are instant, I dont like being squishy like dps and can die from two or three hits, not really fun to me but I know most players enjoy dps , dps jobs will always come last to me. No self heals no defensive buffs and can die in like two hits just isnt very appealing to me at all.

    But again Ive gotten them several times as a dps I just dont care for dps ques are theres nothing so amazing about a dps job that Id rather not play a tank. Tanks have it all damage, health , self heals, there is nothing appealing about being a dps main in the slightest.
    Forgive my sceptcism... But judging from your priotites the fact you get less commendations as a dps wouldn't have anything to do with your line of thinking? Far easier to inflate the numbers by playing a tank/healer? xD

    btw you shouldn't be dying is 2 hits as a dps. You shouldn't be dying at all... Especially in dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    I com for stuff like this too xD

    But yeah the only real measure of good performance using coms is to be a dps main... Like at lvl 60 getting them is hard as hell, nevermind in 8man stuff (will hardly ever get 1). Nice when I do get one coz it means
    its mainly the que and just its not very exciting to me , dps are expendable , and tell that to the parties in dun scathe where all the dps seem to die so fast its crazy. Been in so many parties where healers had to use lb 3 because dps are so squishy and can die to anything or when all the dps died last night to freaking ultima proto in my party so dont tell me they arent squishy as hell. Healers are to but at least they can heal themselves, with 30 min ques there is nothing worth it to me in playing dps.

    I dps mainly to see what a new piece of content looks like if Im not sure Im ready to tank it after watching a guide but now adays I just go straight to tanking it, just not worth it really to me to dps but thats my own opinion obviously its very much so worth it to most of the players on this game. I mainly just do it to see the job stories and to run with friends if they want to tank instead. But that being said I still have gotten plenty of commends on my blm and bard but I chose to main the three tanks so even if the numbers are inflated why should they not count. And people say comms dont mean anything but yet any topic on mentors its always said that 300 is too little to be a mentor so its really a back and forth issue.

    Actually Ive stated in other threads I will not take any reward If Ive never cleared the content sync, and I dont pony farm unless my fc ask otherwise I dont bother because exactly why Im writting this thread. I have three ponies, garuda was from a sync clear, shiva I got on an unsync run and I went back to clear it sync because I didnt feel like I deserved the pony for an unsync only clear, and the other was nightmare on ifrit which I had already cleared sync previously. And I have one bird from my first clear of sephirot which cant be unsync but ok I guess, I play to be a good player not just to play the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
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    Or maybe just maybe you can't heal well enough to deal with unexpected damage and deal with some mechanics... Can't really complain about unexepected damage as it's bound to happen sometimes... Difference is I bet if you take it you heal yourself... Ohh so much for com's = performance xD

    Well yeah coz anyone can get 300 just by playing tank/healer... Not hard to understand... Or maybe it is.

    Dw it's pretty clear you are a troll, so a hit to you're possible lacking in skill is the least I could do. Also pretty clear you don't play to get better otherwise you would do something I dunno... Difficult.

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Im a troll now because I dont want unsync runs to cloud up my instances tab the forums get crazier and crazier. What Im asking for is very logical but whatever, and I wasnt the healer in dun scathe hence I said already that I main tanks not healers.
    Mwahaha even better you need to give yourself alot of room for error otherwise you die... Oh this is precious xD

    Question... Can't you just avoid unsynced runs? Who is the evil person forcing you to do them... Oh wait you like the benefits.

    Nothing you said in this thread is at all "logical" and that is why you are clearly a troll xD

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    So now your bashing me because I play tank maybe u jsut love dps jsut like I love tanking. Im not a troll like I said agian every job in the game deals damange yes some deal more than others. But every job in the game takes damage as well so I personally would rather have 40 k health , 30 k health defensive cool downs the ablitity to solo content, take on bosses witout a healer. Than to get one two three dead as a dps, there is a reason tanks are in the game and why people rag on tanks because dps can only take so many hits. And again I like isnta ques I dont care to wait 30 mins to do the same dungeon roullete I can do as a tank that I prob could run twice within the time it takes to even get in the dungeon as a dps no tank you. Also I dont like to dps because I dont want to be in a party with a tank that wants to pull 2 adds at a time, you dont have to do that in any single dungeon from level 15 on up, its some cases where this is ok but very few. I dont have the patinece to do this constantly sometimes if fine but to do some of the most basic functions in the game its just not worth it. This game says pull everything and thats what I do and I like it , its a lost more fun than dps to me why does that bother you.
    Mhmm ignore the question and instead write a paragraph about something totally unimportant.

    Will ask again... Who is making you do Unsynced runs and grab the ponies etc along the way? I would personally report such a person for harrasment and I strongly advise you to do the same since it's clearly causing you distress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Or maybe just maybe you can't heal well enough to
    Im a troll now because I dont want unsync runs to cloud up my instances tab the forums get crazier and crazier. What Im asking for is very logical but whatever, and I wasnt the healer in dun scathe hence I said already that I main tanks not healers. So I actually was one of the last or I am always the last one alive in these runs where all the dps die from any small mechanic. Im not saying Im a perfect player but I play to learn and I play to be good, and an unsync run has no meaning so why should it effect my commendations that do have meaning is all Im saying. Im wrong for wanting the commendations to hold weight but yet a post about se putting an emote on mog station gets 200 likes this forum is so backwards its crazy. I do not troll there is no reason to , I just dont wont meaningless runs to be on my instance achievements how is that hard to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Im a troll now because I dont want unsync runs to cloud up my instances tab the forums get crazier and crazier. What Im asking for is very logical but whatever...
    Except it's not. You're asking for unsync dungeons to not count towards your achievement because...commendations? How is that at all logical?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnaviAnael View Post
    Except it's not. You're asking for unsync dungeons to not count towards your achievement because...commendations? How is that at all logical?
    Because I would as it stand now have less than 1000 instances and I would have more commendations than I had instances where my number is currently and most good tanks or good healers would as well if they didnt count. I never said I didnt want them to count just a different tab unsync runs go in unsync runs achievement and normal ones go in the instances. I take it pretty serious Im 34 instances away from my tank mount and I know I could go grab a healer friend and 1 2 some easy instances unsync but Id much rather not because for one I personally would rather do it the right way. And that would be 34 instances down the drain witout being able to get commendations. Unsync runs are not the same thing unsync runs are a means of ease and convenience to players for whatever reason they shouldnt be counted in the same achievement tab as the ones that where done the proper way. And because of unsync runs it makes it almost impossible to have more commendations than instances sense they are in the same category.

    @Underdog2204

    So now your bashing me because I play tank maybe u just love dps just like I love tanking. Im not a troll like I said again every job in the game deals damage yes some deal more than others. But every job in the game takes damage as well so I personally would rather have 40 k health , 30 k health defensive cool downs the ability to solo content, take on bosses witout a healer. Than to get one two three dead as a dps, there is a reason tanks are in the game and why people rag on tanks because dps can only take so many hits. And again I like isnta ques I dont care to wait 30 mins to do the same dungeon roulette I can do as a tank that I prob could run twice within the time it takes to even get in the dungeon as a dps no tank you. Also I dont like to dps because I dont want to be in a party with a tank that wants to pull 2 adds at a time, you dont have to do that in any single dungeon from level 15 on up, its some cases where this is ok but very few. I dont have the patience to do this constantly sometimes its fine but to do some of the most basic functions in the game its just not worth it. This game says pull everything and thats what I do and I like it , its a lot more fun than dps to me why does that bother you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    cba to read all this
    ...but what I want to say, and I know I'll sound mean and rude: Who do you think cares how many more runs you need for your tank-mount and how you get them? Who do you think cares about how you get your ponies? And why does this matter to the topic at hand? You're constantly writing very long, very cluttered, very difficult to read paragraphs without a clear point for... what purpose excatly?

    Commendations and dungeon runs arent supposed to be a 1:1 ratio - that would only be the case if the game counted the commendations you GIVE not the ones you recive. Where did you get the weird idea that they have to be (or are supposed to be) 1:1?
    And why do you care how someone earns those achievments?

    And on the matter of commendations, here a little personal touch: I run about 80% of my instances with a friend - hes a freaking badass BLM, I'm a pretty good paladin. He often deserves the commendations more than I do - and yet I think I've got about three times the amount he has? Reminder: We're both at a similar dungeon-counter. Why, you wonder? Because at the end of the dungeon the paladin gets two commendations and the BLM non. The issue here isnt unsyched runs, its how commendations are given away - you cant expect one commendation for one run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
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    Are you doing level 50 primals using level 50 gear?

    The WAR and PLD tank mounts are from 2.x, using level 60 gear, even synced, you are cheating since your level 60 gear gives you a boost.

    About that Shiva pony you have, why did you take that reward? The pony is forever tainted whether you cleared it synced later or not. Lastly, clearing something once and being able to farm it are two very different things.
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    #GetSelliBack2018

    Reading too much of the forums makes me very sad and apathetic.

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    I don't get your 'fix'. You can't recieve comms if you are only playing with friends aka no strangers.
    This has nothing to do with unsync as is, you'd have the same problems (no comms, but counting towards achievment) with any pf content, unsynched or not.


    And meaningless? I'd say a comm from a leaf in Sastasha is already less meaningful than every single out of the seven you recieve for doing the uber almost wipe recovery in history. Just do a tally to count your moments of awesomeness.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 03-04-2017 at 01:59 AM.

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