NIN: Shukuchi could be better...

[Veriden]

I think it should be used more like a charge attack like monk's shoulder charge, dark knights jump flip thing, or a dragoon's jump.

How I would personally like to see it happen: On use your character vanishes and near instantly appears behind your target dealing 200 potency damage (simply 200 b/c nin has a tendency to have lower damage than other classes) 30 second cool down, off global timer.

[Mysticdraggon]

Yes it can stay as it is at its core. The only thing that needs to be done is to fix the animation and startup so that it can be executed instantly rather than having the slight lag that it has now.

Shukuchi is already the most flexible of the movement abilities for DPS. Aetherial Manipulation can only target a party member, Shoulder Tackle can only target an enemy, Dragoon had various jumps but each has a set landing behavior. Shukuchi can be free-aimed and can also be used to move directly to any selected target (party member, enemy, object).

even those abilities, or abilities similar to Shukuchi, have their own controversy. i believe someone here mentioned the abilities already.

i do agree that the ability should take a lot less time to use, but again, we have a situation where the developers dont want us to abuse the ability out of combat: they will have second thought before taking action.

[Blueyes]

Personally I wish both Shukuchi and Aether Manipulation would just automatically send your character the max distance in front of you if you don't have a target selected. If you do have a target selected you'll travel to that exact spot or the furthest you can travel towards the position of your target.

[Zojha]

[...] we have a situation where the developers dont want us to abuse the ability out of combat:

Abuse for what, tho'?

It's on a pretty long CD, it's not like we can zoom around the map at sonic speed and it still doesn't allow us to climb un-climb-able surfaces. The range is short as well. Maybe if they took the pathing off the ability and just ported us to the target location...that could be abused for out of border shenanigans. But I can't think of much more >.>

[Mysticdraggon]

Abuse for what, tho'?

It's on a pretty long CD, it's not like we can zoom around the map at sonic speed and it still doesn't allow us to climb un-climb-able surfaces. The range is short as well. Maybe if they took the pathing off the ability and just ported us to the target location...that could be abused for out of border shenanigans. But I can't think of much more >.>

the assumption is that if they were to decrease the cool-down and increase the range, there is a chance that ninja's would outclass mounts and short distance walks in terms of travel speed: for example its obvious that the developers want you as the player to walk/sprint from one NPC/PC/Destination to another, not teleport (short distance perspective).

[Mysticdraggon]

Personally I wish both Shukuchi and Aether Manipulation would just automatically send your character the max distance in front of you if you don't have a target selected. If you do have a target selected you'll travel to that exact spot or the furthest you can travel towards the position of your target.

this would actually be the best option. for myself, sometimes the final execution of Shukuchi is unresponsive because the place i target is barely too far. it should deny the player from moving the target beyond it's maximum range. with this, the player would just be able to face forward and double tap the action to quickly move in the direction of which they face if they desire to travel shukuchi's maximum distance.

[Shurrikhan]

this would actually be the best option. for myself, sometimes the final execution of Shukuchi is unresponsive because the place i target is barely too far. it should deny the player from moving the target beyond it's maximum range. with this, the player would just be able to face forward and double tap the action to quickly move in the direction of which they face if they desire to travel shukuchi's maximum distance.

The ability to place the targeting indicator beyond maximum range and just have it go to whatever would be max range in that direction was literally one of the most applauded functions of an entire expansion for WoW Warriors. We could certainly do the same.