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  1. #11
    Player
    Callinon's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/05/24
    Location
    ???
    投稿
    1,557
    Character
    Callinon Soulforge
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    踊り子 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:Zojha 投稿を閲覧
    Have you all forgot how server issues and data load and technical issues and all the other reasons named to not increase inventory can easily be circumvented for 1$ a month?
    Yeah it's amazing how fast increasing the sub fee makes their insurmountable technical problems go away. Almost like they're just lying to us and assuming we're too stupid to notice.
    (6)

  2. #12
    Player
    alimdia's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/07/08
    投稿
    2,064
    Character
    Ali Lifesaver
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    斧術士 Lv 80
    "We can't add new retainers, the servers would explode, too much data being handled, etc etc, but if you pay me $2 a month per retainer we might be able to do something about it."

    "But SE, people are able to gain millions of gil from those 6 extra ventures per hour and more from having a bigger limit of items listings in the marketboard, isn't that the same as RMT?"

    *crickets*
    (10)

  3. #13
    Player
    Kit-Kat's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/05/29
    投稿
    332
    Character
    Ayleen Estheim
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:Exiled_Tonberry 投稿を閲覧
    I wish they wouldn't give us BS excuses when the real answer to everything is "we'll implement it if you pay us".
    *WARNING* EDGY COMMENT INCOMING *WARNING*
    Because a beautiful lie is better than an ugly truth.
    (3)

  4. 2017/03/01 00:03

  5. #14
    Player
    Kit-Kat's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/05/29
    投稿
    332
    Character
    Ayleen Estheim
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:alimdia 投稿を閲覧
    "We can't add new retainers, the servers would explode, too much data being handled, etc etc, but if you pay me $2 a month per retainer we might be able to do something about it."

    "But SE, people are able to gain millions of gil from those 6 extra ventures per hour and more from having a bigger limit of items listings in the marketboard, isn't that the same as RMT?"

    *crickets*
    That's wrong though. That falls more in the P2W category, not RMT. While technically it is real money trading, you're 'trading' your money to SE, not a third party company/person gaining profit from someone else's product, which is the only reason RMT is illegal.
    (5)

  6. #15
    Player
    Shougun's Avatar
    登録日
    2012/01/19
    Location
    Ul'dah
    投稿
    9,431
    Character
    Wubrant Drakesbane
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    漁師 Lv 90
    Quote 引用元:alimdia 投稿を閲覧
    "But SE, people are able to gain millions of gil from those 6 extra ventures per hour and more from having a bigger limit of items listings in the marketboard, isn't that the same as RMT?"
    *coughs*.. Uhm.. on a somewhat related note, what am I not doing right with my retainers? lol
    (5)

  7. #16
    Player
    Celef's Avatar
    登録日
    2013/12/02
    投稿
    2,581
    Character
    Aranie Crowley
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    幻術士 Lv 81
    Quote 引用元:Kit-Kat 投稿を閲覧
    That's wrong though. That falls more in the P2W category, not RMT. While technically it is real money trading, you're 'trading' your money to SE, not a third party company/person gaining profit from someone else's product, which is the only reason RMT is illegal.
    Then why don't they allow selling CS items to other players in exchange for gils via the gift option ?
    In the end, SE gets the real money not a third person/company

    You know Alimdia, RMT is not RMT as long as it profits SE and not the players
    (3)
    Quote 引用元:Watachy 投稿を閲覧
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote 引用元:KaivaC 投稿を閲覧
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

  8. #17
    Player
    alimdia's Avatar
    登録日
    2014/07/08
    投稿
    2,064
    Character
    Ali Lifesaver
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    斧術士 Lv 80
    Quote 引用元:Kit-Kat 投稿を閲覧
    While technically it is real money trading, you're 'trading' your money to SE
    Technically correct = the best kind of correct.

    RMT makes no distinction between bot-farmed or SE-endorsed, people made this very clear when the topic came up regarding the implementation of sub tokens.
    (3)

  9. #18
    Player
    Kit-Kat's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/05/29
    投稿
    332
    Character
    Ayleen Estheim
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:Celef 投稿を閲覧
    Then why don't they allow selling CS items to other players in exchange for gils via the gift option ?
    In the end, SE gets the real money not a third person/company

    You know Alimdia, RMT is not RMT as long as it profits SE and not the players
    Because it's not a safe trade. Scams may happen, and SE can't control that. People always abuse it in many games (I personally happened to experience it) and SE would get a shitstorm of support tickets.
    (1)

  10. #19
    Player
    Kit-Kat's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/05/29
    投稿
    332
    Character
    Ayleen Estheim
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    赤魔道士 Lv 70
    Quote 引用元:alimdia 投稿を閲覧
    Technically correct = the best kind of correct.

    RMT makes no distinction between bot-farmed or SE-endorsed, people made this very clear when the topic came up regarding the implementation of sub tokens.
    I'm against RMT, but please don't just quote what you like to read instead of the whole statement. The only reason RMT is illegal in every game (or anything really) is because someone is making profit from their product. Pretty much just like pirating movies. It does make a distinction when SE is making money from its own product like selling in-game 'merchandise', they're not profiting from enyone elses work and you can't compare it like you did. Morally incorrect? up to one's opinion, but it's not the same.
    And I said technically, because technically and literally RMT stands for Real Money Trading, which is the act involving you giving real money cash to someone, while in online communities it stands for selling virtual items obtained in a product you don't own for real life cash.
    (1)
    2017/03/01 01:52; Kit-Kat が最後に編集

  11. #20
    Player
    Exiled_Tonberry's Avatar
    登録日
    2015/09/02
    投稿
    1,660
    Character
    Sharl Llyntine
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    白魔道士 Lv 100
    Quote 引用元:Callinon 投稿を閲覧
    Yeah it's amazing how fast increasing the sub fee makes their insurmountable technical problems go away. Almost like they're just lying to us and assuming we're too stupid to notice.
    I would love to ask this at the next Live Letter. I would love to know why doze couldn't work but this suddenly can, and why doze hasn't been implemented in the same way as play dead.

    I have respect for SE, but between this and the Proto Ultima mess, it makes me feel like a can't trust their word a whole lot anymore
    (3)

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