Why can you do Savage Coil unsynced?

[Beckett]

Good lord why the heck did someone re-bump this 2 year old topic

Oh jeez, I didn't even notice this was a necro thread until your post. I have a bit more sympathy for the people of two years ago, who still felt that content was fresh and wanted to enjoy their personal achievements a little longer. At this point, no one should care.

Raiding has always been, and always will be, about being the first. For the present, you have the highest ilevel, but eventually the cap will be raised and every Tom, Dick and Stanly will have that ilevel just from clearing the MSQ. For the present, you have access to unique titles/minions/mounts, but eventually those will be accessible to everyone. As a raider, you have to accept this and simply enjoy being first at the next thing. When everyone else is excited to get The Avatar title, you'll be clearing AS12. When everyone else finally gets their Arrhidaeus, you'll be clearing Omega.

[Jim_Berry]

I'm surprised that this has been a thing lately, especially with the community complaints about players not knowing how to handle mechanics if phases can't be skipped due to low dps.

*EDIT*
Just saw that this post was from 2015.

[Lambdafish]

Content is supposed to be fun.

Let me ask you this, what is the current most difficult content? (that would be savage creator). How difficult is savage creator? (not difficult for a hardcore player). I have seen arguments from hardcore players saying that content is getting easier and there is nothing for them to do, AND I have seen arguements from casual players asking for the devs to stop wasting resources on hardcore content that nobody will do.

Why is it then that content specifically intended for hardcore players is nerfed for casual players then? Why do we not keep hard content hard for those players so that we can develop new content AND keep old content relevant, im not trying to take anything away, I am proposing that content stays relevant. I'm even ok with Madoc's compromise of offering different rewards based on if content is beaten synced/unsynced, as it gives incentive to run the content as it should be rather than facerolling it, but saying that "if you faceroll this content with unsynced you can have all the same rewards as doing it synced" is not ok.

There is a massive underlying problem with the reward system in the game, and the "do if for fun and challenge" and "everyone deserves everything" mentality does not bode well for a healthy reward system, and people will eventually give up as there is no incentive to keep playing (examples: Gear that becomes outdated quickly, gear that is meaningless or equivilent to easier content, rewards that can just be facerolled in a few months, items that are moved to other content, challenges that are radically nerfed).

Edit: As for the necro, I think this thread is still relevant. In stormblood a lot of heavensward content will get nerfed, the alexander savage mounts and minions will be on faceroll farm, come 4.0 the devs are planning a third difficulty akin to savage coil, again, why should I bother doing it if it is just going to become faceroll content? This is a current issue and it is very unhealthy towards the midcore-hardcore community within the game.

[Arutan]

Totally support my above neighbor

[Altena]

In all honesty, give unsynced the mounts / gear / whatever they want. The only thing they shouldn't get is achievment points and titles.

I mean as a casually hardcore player (lawl)... I personally don't really care much for the mounts, but it's the satisfaction of knowing I beat something at the time that it was relevant. Titles are an in-game way of showing that without holding gear, mounts, minions etc from those the playerbase that are likely more interested in them.

Even though I personally run around with no title, I can understand the appreciation some people would have of having something like that exclusive for those that beat the content.

A title is a small trophy or head nod to those that did beat the content. Let them keep it.
If other people want that title, then they can get it by syncing.

[Lovescake]

Tfw people are throwing the story card in the completely optional tier of the raid which doesn't add anything apart from challenge.

[Lambdafish]

Tfw people are throwing the story card in the completely optional tier of the raid which doesn't add anything apart from challenge.

This is a psycological thing more than anything. Because coil didn't have a normal mode, story was a reward for raiding, now in savage alexander, story is no longer a reward, therefor raiders feel like the story reward was taken away from them. It is a valid complaint because so much else was also taken away in gordias (no unique gear, no story, and an increased difficulty led to a lot of players being put off).