1 Housing Plot Per Account (not character) Solves Housing Crisis

[Titor]

some people craft and sell their crafts. some people game the marketboard. some people buy gil.

if you're seriously suggesting housing monopolies cannot happen because everyone has the "same access", you're objectively wrong.

Assuming that people who have a lot of gil use RMT is wrong. Craft stuff, save up, make gil like other people who make gil legitimately do.

Unless everyone wants a house handed to them...? Even if there were infinite wards, if they don't have enough gil to buy from the server, they won't have a house.

Everyone with a sub and HW has access to the same crafts, the same MB, and the same legitimate resources.

[Vhailor]

Assuming that people who have a lot of gil use RMT is wrong. Craft stuff, save up, make gil like other people who make gil legitimately do.

Unless everyone wants a house handed to them...? Even if there were infinite wards, if they don't have enough gil to buy from the server, they won't have a house.

Everyone with a sub and HW has access to the same crafts, the same MB, and the same legitimate resources.

Sorry, but I have to disagree here. Even if you want to throw out the (highly relevant) notion that many people don't like grinding gil the way other players do, players still have vastly differing amounts of playtime. I don't think many people here would agree with the statement that owning a house should have an effective 'playtime' gate.

In other words, if I have a job / kids / etc. and only 10 hours or so a week of playtime (to divide up between leveling, improving gear, farming gil, etc.), and some unemployed kid has 60 hours a week, they're going to acquire vastly more gil than me. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but if that same player goes and spends their gil monopolizing houses, I'm effectively shut out of my opportunity in perpetuity. That'll remain the case with any new Wards and Districts that open up, since players with large quantities of playtime will be far more capable of logging in as soon as housing is available and snapping up properties before I'm home from work.

Also, as an aside - I don't have kids, and work isn't eating up much of my time at the moment. I'm in the category of people who CAN play 40-50 hours a week, if I so desire. Despite that, I can see that it would be incredibly unfair for me to use my position to snap up houses and lock other players with less available time out of their chance to own one too.

PS - Why in the fuck does this forum still have a 1000-character limit on initial posts? Does SE not realize everyone just edits their post after the fact?

[Domeric]

Assuming that people who have a lot of gil use RMT is wrong. Craft stuff, save up, make gil like other people who make gil legitimately do.

Unless everyone wants a house handed to them...? Even if there were infinite wards, if they don't have enough gil to buy from the server, they won't have a house.

Everyone with a sub and HW has access to the same crafts, the same MB, and the same legitimate resources.

Do you like... not read entire posts when you quote people?

It doesn't matter if everyone has access to the same legitimate means of making money. One person buying multiple homes is wrong. It's triple wrong for them to do it to mark up resale value.

Sorry, but I have to disagree here. Even if you want to throw out the (highly relevant) notion that many people don't like grinding gil the way other players do, players still have vastly differing amounts of playtime. I don't think many people here would agree with the statement that owning a house should have an effective 'playtime' gate.

In other words, if I have a job / kids / etc. and only 10 hours or so a week of playtime (to divide up between leveling, improving gear, farming gil, etc.), and some unemployed kid has 60 hours a week, they're going to acquire vastly more gil than me. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but if that same player goes and spends their gil monopolizing houses, I'm effectively shut out of my opportunity in perpetuity. That'll remain the case with any new Wards and Districts that open up, since players with large quantities of playtime will be far more capable of logging in as soon as housing is available and snapping up properties before I'm home from work.

Also, as an aside - I don't have kids, and work isn't eating up much of my time at the moment. I'm in the category of people who CAN play 40-50 hours a week, if I so desire. Despite that, I can see that it would be incredibly unfair for me to use my position to snap up houses and lock other players with less available time out of their chance to own one too.

PS - Why in the fuck does this forum still have a 1000-character limit on initial posts? Does SE not realize everyone just edits their post after the fact?

This is right on the money.

[Korbash]

They should do like in LOTRO where you can only have one house per account, and allow your alts access to your house and chests (the ones in the house in LOTRO which is the the shared bank), and a teleport there too. FF XIV is not alt friendly at all, no idea why since you pay more to have more than 1 alt per server, 14.99$, while those who only have 1 alt per server, pay 12.99$. There is no shared banks, you cannot mail things to your alts, you cannot add your alts to your friend list, you cannot share your house with your alts etc. Those are issues the devs should work on.

[Titor]

One person buying multiple homes is wrong.

My point is why don't you just buy a house before the person buying multiple houses can buy the house. If they're buying from the wards themselves via relinquishment, just check more often or something. If you don't have time to look for a house now, you won't have time even if they restrict it to one per account.

For example on Balmung when new wards released, even if like 50 people were alts buying houses, the queue to get into Balmung on patchday for new wards was still over 1300 (people not even in yet) even after all the wards had sold out. Those 50 would have been gone by the time you got back from work or whatever whether it was limited to one account or not.

[Domeric]

My point is why don't you just buy a house before the person buying multiple houses can buy the house.

Your point is flawed, because it is wrong. You assume (or lie in saying) that everyone was around when houses were available. That everyone had the same amount of time to be able to farm the money.

Look at my join date. If you think any houses were available when I signed up, I have a bridge in Wakanda to sell you.

[Titor]

Your point is flawed, because it is wrong. You assume (or lie in saying) that everyone was around when houses were available. That everyone had the same amount of time to be able to farm the money.

Look at my join date. If you think any houses were available when I signed up, I have a bridge in Wakanda to sell you.

Do you think that by restricting alts buying houses, you'd have a house now? Or do you think that a few thousands of people before you would have bought them up in the alts' stead?


This thread is about restricting alts from buying houses. Even if you restrict it, new people will still be new and not have enough gil, some people will have work when the servers come up and won't be able to buy added houses, etc. It will add such a small impact to the housing situation that it will be negligible (especially in my Balmung example before).

Everyone should be pushing for more accessibility, not more restrictions.

Now that you have passed level 50, and had some time to save up gil, from here on out you have an equal opportunity as everyone else to buy a house from auto relinquish or new wards. If work/school/family prevents you from being on at these times, it's not going to matter whether or not it was limited to a subset of people, they'll probably be gone by the time you get on.

We need more wards.

[Domeric]

Do you think that by restricting alts buying houses, you'd have a house now? Or do you think that a few thousands of people before you would have bought them up in the alts' stead?


This thread is about restricting alts from buying houses. Even if you restrict it, new people will still be new and not have enough gil, some people will have work when the servers come up and won't be able to buy added houses, etc. It will add such a small impact to the housing situation that it will be negligible (especially in my Balmung example before).

Everyone should be pushing for more accessibility, not more restrictions.

Now that you have passed level 50, and had some time to save up gil, from here on out you have an equal opportunity as everyone else to buy a house from auto relinquish or new wards. If work/school/family prevents you from being on at these times, it's not going to matter whether or not it was limited to a subset of people, they'll probably be gone by the time you get on.

We need more wards.

I don't know. I can't know. Because housing monopolies are a thing. Even if all the houses were taken, they'd be taken by different people instead of one person having 2-6 different ones.

We're getting more wards, but unless monopolies are stopped, more houses are going to be bought out to be marked up and resold, which is obscenely uncool.

[Vhailor]

We need more wards.

More Wards requires server-side resources that, as of yet, SE doesn't seem willing to allocate. You're right that more accessibility would be the best solution, but Housing has been available for quite some time now, and SE still hasn't implemented enough for everyone.

So, restricting alts from further-amplifying the problem is the next best thing, even if it's a relatively marginal action. People complaining about this issue have been doing so for a long time, and are very much in an 'all of the above' type of mindset when it comes to anything that will even slightly improve the situation.

You're also making a giant assumption regarding how small the problem of alts actually is. I came back from a two-year hiatus, and only have a few friends still playing. Two out of the three own houses on two different servers. It's a small sample size, to be sure, but I'd be stunned if the impact on the housing situation would be 'negligible'.

[Harukochi]

1 house per account on a server which is by default shared between all of your characters on that server.
Obviously not a perfect solution but it would be a start

i am dtf with this

this is the best solution so far