Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
And I didn't claim more......They aren't designed to "Win". It's a fairly coherent thought process, really. But agreeing to disagreeing is a fair proposal.
Sigh.....
- I claimed a good dps can beat a good healer
- You refuted that, claiming a good dps could beat a bad healer. However against a good healer a good dps would require the help from others and stated one could go to the dueling arena to test that claim.
- I provided my personal data point from testing your claim via your proposed method. My findings were counter to your claim: In an even 1v1 matchup I can beat WHM and AST in less than 10 secs, SCH is the exception to the rule and I stipulated that it was a debatable outcome.

I am not suggesting that a healer should be able to kill a dps, the evidence I provided shows that in the case of WHM and AST it is not true that a good dps needs help against a good healer (unless they happen to be a SCH). Your ramblings on whether dedicated healers are a good or bad design choice are irrelevant to this exchange.

As an aside, I would advise you against being intellectually condescending. It is above you.

Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
That said, we could do a little test and make an unlimited PvP only free trial to get rid of the accessibility issue. But truth be told, I doubt it would change much. I think the issue, ultimately, is simply gameplay. And since you reject the notion, I'm afraid that's another point where we will have to agree to disagree.
That is because there have been little to no arguments for systemic gameplay issues that dont rely on comparisons to dedicated PVP games. PVP in FFXIV is simply a part of the amusement park at large, where players can spend their time if they desire. Not Dota, LoL, Overwatch, CS:GO or whatever else people have mentioned. Of course PVP in FFXIV lacks some of the things games designed from bottom up for PVP have. That is not an argument for there being an issue with PVP in FFXIV. If someone would care to argue within the proper context, I am more than open to be swayed. By context I mean; PVP exists in FFXIV to give endgame players something to do when PVE content is light, Frontlines and 8 man Feast are for fun only, Ranked Feast is the only "competitive" mode in the game.