[Tanks/Healers]: Are you disappointed there is no new job in 4.0?

[Jiao]

At first? Sure, I was a little deflated that I wouldn't have a shiny new healer play thing. However, I've just used this an excuse to retire from healing. I've spent too many years playing the selfless healer, it's time to mix things up a bit. I think i'll give Red Mage a bash. I've been enjoying the liberating feeling of playing DPS lately as opposed to my AST, so I'm eager to sink my teeth into Stormblood.

[RaijinSupreme]

At first? Sure, I was a little deflated that I wouldn't have a shiny new healer play thing. However, I've just used this an excuse to retire from healing. I've spent too many years playing the selfless healer, it's time to mix things up a bit. I think i'll give Red Mage a bash. I've been enjoying the liberating feeling of playing DPS lately as opposed to my AST, so I'm eager to sink my teeth into Stormblood.

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[RubenSnizzle]

Nope. I don't care about AST or SCH. White mage power.


Maybe if they gave you the option to play the class from level 1, i would bother learning AST, but they get too many skills at 30 and eh, it's a pain to learn and map the spells for me.

[bswpayton]

Hey all,

There was a thread a few days back I think where I posted a question I felt the devs would not answer (to my satisfaction) and it began to kind of derail that thread so I am making this topic for those who wish to continue to discuss it.

Im still salty I play dps but I love tanks and healers for one as a healer you can heal your self if your hp is low, as a tank you have so much health that its hard for you to die. As a dps two hits and no heal by the healer your a goner , I just feel like dps are so much more dependent on healers that I dont like it Ill play the new jobs but nothing more than potd dungeons at my level, and the occasional run with friends.

[EusisLandale]

I'm a bit disappointed, not strictly due to no new job but rather the lack of information in general. "DPS, if you're unhappy or bored with what you've got here's an idea of what's coming for you to try out! Tanks? Healers? For you guys there's uh mm eh... Changes? To the things?"

[Yatsurugi]

I would've liked a new tank but I'm pretty happy with how Dark Knight plays and am excited to see it's new skills. There's also the changes to Paladin I look forward to seeing.
So I'm not that bummed out.

[bounddreamer]

I'm actually okay with it. I'm a tank main and my focus will be getting my tank jobs to 70 and gearing them. It's a bit of a relief I don't have to worry about figuring out how the new job's playstyle fits in and whether I or my co-tank have to change to that job.

As for healing, I have all three at 60, intend to get all three to 70, and I'm relieved there as well. I feel like the healing jobs are in a good place and a fourth might unbalance them unless it brought something very different to the table, like a TP based debuffing/buffing dancer.

I lied, I think we really needed that Dancer healer.

[Stanazolol]

Why would you need a new tank class when you have WAR?

[Kosmos992k]

Yes, I am disappointed. An agility tank or physical healer would have been awesome. As would Dancer.

My biggest issue right now for tanks and healers is the gearing. I really hate the tank gear especially, but Healer gear is little better.

My PLD is tired of metal on metal on leather armor. She's tired of the damned chaffing from the metal pants and boots. She hates being covered from head to toe in unisex blah armor that gives her abs and pecs, but no breasts. She loathes the fact that is is apparently impossible to make good looking metal armor that actually fits a female figure, and my god, in a fantasy game is it too much to expect that she can show a little bit of leg? It's not like the armor in this game would physically be capable of standing up to the damage it takes, so obviously it's 'magic' in which case, why can't female tanks have a few tank armors that look good on them?

I mean it's all fine and well if you're a Roegadyn male or Highlander male, your physique more than matches the armor styles that the majority of tank gear uses. But even FemRoes and highland lasses look uncomfortable squeezing their assets into the fake abs and generic shaped cuirass that we normally see. I'm not asking for bikini armor, I'm not even asking for lots of sets, just a few. Please let female tanks be female.

Right now my only options require glamoring over the gear I work for. I'd like to be able to show off my gear sometimes, but not at the expense of the character I've worked hard to create and develop.

Similarly for White Mage and the other healers, why do we have to suffer what almost amounts to Papal Robes (or similar) every time there is a gear set being created? Casters have a much better time of it, perhaps Casters are just sexier than healers? From the point of view of male characters healer gear is very feminine already, it's mostly robes and dresses after all, they need something better. They need something that is designed for them. At the same time I know very few female (or male) WHM who enjoy looking like they got a good price on some surplus hempen blankets. So again, can we please have some gear that is actually well designed and tailored, pretty, and perhaps even a piece or two leaning towards sexy?

Of course given that I would like to see Dancer and an agility tank, it's perhaps not surprising that I would like to see some lighter and more stylish tank (and healer) armors

[Naunet]

I'm not bothered by the lack per se, but at the reasoning given. This is like their logic for making Au'ra look like hyurs with cosplay bits on them; they're convinced there's more people switching for more of the same and are not taking into account the new people DRK and AST attracted to tanking and healing.

I had quit the game mid-second Coil and came back some months after HW only drawn in my Astrologian, so yeah. Basing new classes off of who switches to new jobs seems pretty off-base to me. That whole excuse was pretty crappy.

Maybe if they gave you the option to play the class from level 1, i would bother learning AST, but they get too many skills at 30 and eh, it's a pain to learn and map the spells for me.

This is probably the most frustrating thing for me with regards to healing and tanking jobs in this game. If you want to heal off the bat, you have literally ONE option: conjurer/white mage. For the other two, you have to either grind through 30 levels as a dps, or grind through 50 levels PLUS all of the ARR MSQ before you can get to the job you want. :/ Tanks have it almost though not quite as bad, as you get to pick between two jobs to start from level one.

But yeah, healers have pretty much no options.