[Tanks/Healers]: Are you disappointed there is no new job in 4.0?

[bass9020]

After how Dark Knight was a Paladin with a different skin (and a bit better) and Astrologian is both healers in one, id rather they take some time before they introduce another tank and healer. Its bad enough MCH was bard as well. Maybe by 5.0 they will have some awesome idea for a new job in each role so lets hope! (not holding my breath though)

[hynaku]

I'm disappointed there was no new healer or tank job classes added in 4.0. Already have long que times now there won't be as many tanks or healer because of them playing the new dps classes. Now ones will be waiting hours to get there que to pop because of it now being more unbalanced between dps, healers, and tanks ratio.

[Kyne_Lyons]

Disappointed because there's just going to be the same old meta for the next 2 years.

They would have to rebuild every tank and healer job from the ground up to keep things interesting and they've already stated they aren't doing that, so Warrior + Whatever other tank will be the same going forward. Unless they change Cleric Stance so that it applies to the Faerie, Scholar + Whatever will be the same healing meta going forward. Optimized comps will still take DRK/WAR + SCH/AST just like right now unless somehow they make DRK/PLD just as good, which I don't see happening. It's disappointing but it is what it is, maybe they will surprise me but it's never happened yet.

[AdventZero]

Not really. I only play sword using European Knight jobs, so unless it was Rune Fencer/Mystic Knight with a medium sized sword (bigger then PLD's one hander, but smaller then DRK's two hander) I wouldn't have any interest in it.

[RaijinSupreme]

nope. People tossed AST in the trash, and the same thing would have probably happened with whatever the new healer was anyway.

And I'm fine with PLD & Drk. I dont really need another one.

[Vexander]

As a kind of... Hypothetical...

What If: SE had designed Samurai and Red Mage with a second set of weapons that made them able to swap to a Tank and Healer spec? So Samurai could tank, and Red Mage could heal. Would that have made people happy? Especially if these alternate specs were blatant copies of Warrior and Scholar? Like, literally, the exact same abilities with a different coat of paint? Magicked Crystal Medium working like a Faerie? Would people have been happy, or pissed?

[Kyne_Lyons]

As a kind of... Hypothetical...

What If: SE had designed Samurai and Red Mage with a second set of weapons that made them able to swap to a Tank and Healer spec? So Samurai could tank, and Red Mage could heal. Would that have made people happy? Especially if these alternate specs were blatant copies of Warrior and Scholar? Like, literally, the exact same abilities with a different coat of paint? Magicked Crystal Medium working like a Faerie? Would people have been happy, or pissed?

What would even be the point? You want new jobs to do different things and try different variations of gameplay, or allow you to explore different comps rather than just "it's literally the same thing copy-pasted with 0 differences".

[Vexander]

What would even be the point? You want new jobs to do different things and try different variations of gameplay, or allow you to explore different comps rather than just "it's literally the same thing copy-pasted with 0 differences".

Its a question asking just what people want exactly. Because Heavensward more or less gave us a new Tank and Healer that was more or less a copy/paste of the existing ones. It takes SE a full year to develop and balance a new class. Which I presume to mean, the addition of a new role. If a job had two roles, I couldn't help but imagine the new job would then take twice as long to balance.

Though I do think new classes with more than one role option would be a good way to solve issues going forward if possible.

[Khalithar]

Yes. I tank almost exclusively and having something to play as a means of changing it up is what I've always enjoyed. I regularly swap between Drk and Pld and have been dabbling in Warrior lately also, having a fourth class to mess around with when I don't feel like playing either would have been nice.

[Kyne_Lyons]

Its a question asking just what people want exactly. Because Heavensward more or less gave us a new Tank and Healer that was more or less a copy/paste of the existing ones.

>Dark Arts ability augmentation using MP is more or less a copy/paste
>Card Draw/Shuffle/Spread and buffs are or less a copy/paste

If your definition of "more or less a copy/paste" is that the job has the basic skills to perform the job function like a threat combo, damage mitigation, or healing spells then I'm not really sure what to tell you. Dark Knight and Astrologian are very different jobs.