Should healers now be allowed to play how they choose to play?

[vigioX-Sun]

Is it really that hard to multitasking? .
Tanks do it, An like 90% of healers I find in DF do it too. I do it myself, most of the post agree on dps an heal.
Maybe is time you look yourself in a mirror an....
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You know what... forget it ..
just keep doing what you are doing.

[Dsync]

Errm think Ive said in several posts that I do when I can. But you have such a bad attitude about it, I was just geuinely wondering if you enjoy anything really. I mean, take a chill pill and let others breath, Im suffocating on your lack of tolerence towards others

and I'm suffocating on your laziness and your desire to force that on others. You should never force yourself on others, that's a sickening attitude. You're right, I do lack tolerance for people who try to force themselves on others. You have argued that it's "not a job" that it's "my sub" and that you can be as lazy as you want. Then you say that you do try. I'm calling bull.

You've ignored posts that blatantly state that SE know, and have encouraged DPS, on purpose. What is the point in a thread where you, as OP, ignore all evidence that goes against what you say? Right on this page there's an official magazine screenshot saying that healers should weave damage in. No word there from you. They nerfed the accuracy in dungeons so healers could do damage. Nothing there. Fact they don't remove Cleric in dungeons, when we know the feature is there? Nothing.

People trying to respond to you in an honest way are pissing in the wind.

You even ignore that people aren't against healers who TRY. You wheel out the same arguments as if we've never rebutted them. You are intellectually dishonest .

Healer is both Heal AND DPS(priority to keep people alive first, but intention should be to weave damage in). You do not have double the buttons to press compared to a DPS or Tank playing their role properly. It fits perfectly. I'm glad people have wised up to the fact they can remove these players who expect carries. I'll calm down when these players stop feeling entitled to be in an instance with people who don't want them.

I do not do savage because I don't think I'm capable of it. I do not feel entitled to do it and for others to carry. If I play badly then I feel bad for having the team carry me (sense of shame), and I don't feel like I earnt the right to call something a victory. This spurs me to try harder. It seems that the sense of shame is missing in a lot of people, and people are happy to wallow in the mud rather than aim high. We have people who are actively dragging people down to that level. This has the long term effect of lowering the overall skill level of the community.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Compromise good word, should have used it myself, but do you see anything remotely compromising about some of the posts here? Saying that its interested me and now Im wondering how a compromise could be applied, any suggestions? And I mean, changes to game play cos some wont compromise if its up to them. Oh and must reply to that person calling me a liar do you realise I was talking of story mode? and I categorically am not lying cos I saw it with my own eyes but it may not have been posted publically, oh and my percentile is 63 just checked

You're shifting the goal posts again. The person quoted referenced your original post and the Savage static that kicked you for apparent low DPS. At no point in your response did you mention story mode until I called out your parse numbers. Regardless, good, you are DPSing. So why still defend this idea healers should be able to stand around because "it's their play style"?

[craized]

You should never force yourself on others, that's a sickening attitude. You're right, I do lack tolerance for people who try to force themselves on others.

And yet you expect people to play the way you want them to even if they don't want to. There is a word for this my friend. That word is hypocrit.

[Dsync]

And yet you expect people to play the way you want them to even if they don't want to. There is a word for this my friend. That word is hypocrit.

I've said over and over again that people can play how they want. Just not on my time. I'll leave, or the party will vote kick. No one is forcing them to do anything. They can easily find another party to join (same goes for me if I don't like the way the party plays) that'll put up with them. It's not like they have no other option. You and Feyona want to force us to accept lazy behaviour. Gosh, reading is really hard for some.

We've had concerted guilt tripping (another thread) that people should stay out of an obligation to the party, despite people like you two saying one of those people doesn't have the same obligation as everyone else. You encourage people to be sub-standard. I don't.

[Aniond]

I've said over and over again that people can play how they want. Just not on my time. I'll leave, or the party will vote kick. No one is forcing them to do anything. They can easily find another party to join that'll put up with them. It's not like they have no other option. You and Feyona want to force us to accept lazy behaviour. Gosh, reading is really hard for some.

We've had concerted guilt tripping (another thread) that people should stay out of an obligation to the party, despite people like you two saying one of those people doesn't have the same obligation as everyone else. You encourage people to be sub-standard. I don't.

When you chose to a roulette its random. You should accept people play styles or simply form your own premade groups of people that support your play style. You can call and justify it all you want, but you saying People have to play to my style or GTFO makes you a hypocrite. Its that simple.

[Taika]

and when i play my healer, i will only do dmg when i see comfortable
until the day dev force us to do so

"And when I play my Machinist, I will not use my MP turret until a direct quote from the developers saying I'm forced to do so." You do realise how ridiculous that argument is? Basically, you're saying you're refusing to be useful to your group unless you're forced to do so. What a great team player attitude!

[Dsync]

When you chose to a roulette its random. You should accept people play styles or simply form your own premade groups of people that support your play style. You can call and justify it all you want, but you saying People have to play to my style or GTFO makes you a hypocrite. Its that simple.

Yes it's random, and people don't have to put up with a person who's not pulling their weight in that random group. Another person who thinks we should be forced to take people who can't be bothered. They DON'T have to play to my style. What is it with you anti-dps people and your reading comprehension?

If you want to play to half the ability of your job knowingly then YOU should create a premade. Works both ways.

If I leave = They can carry on regardless
If they are kicked = They can rejoin straight away and likely get a group that'll put up with them

Please point to the part where they are being forced.

At no point has any one here called for them to be harassed in-game. We've had people saying that people should ask nicely if they'd dps, but given that a good portion of the time that'll get taken negatively, most people don't even want to ask, so they leave or kick.

[craized]

Please point to the part where they are being forced.

The point where they are forced to find another group with the possibility of a long queu because you aren't willing to accept a differing view point regardless of the fact the difference it will make to you is negligible, and in fact would go out of your own way and lose half an hour on a dungeon all because of your own stuck up ideals.

[Dsync]

They "choose" to find another group.

and "accepting" to you lot means "forced upon and can't complain because it's my sub and you have to put up with me because you signed an imaginary contract on clicking roulette". I did not sign up to be harassed by lazy players. I'm happy to be stuck up if it means not encouraging people to be bad. I'd rather be stuck up than drag people into being poor. 30 minutes I can find many other things to do.

If everyone in the party played to the level of a 'heal only' healer then the difference wouldn't be close to negligible. Why do healers get a free ride?