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    AlphaSonic's Avatar
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Don't DPS but you will be considered a mediocre healer. Nobody is going to say you are a good healer if you don't even try or you don't want to DPS. If you are trying to be considered a good healer, you aren't going to.
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    Reigne Bo
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Don't DPS but you will be considered a mediocre healer. Nobody is going to say you are a good healer if you don't even try or you don't want to DPS. If you are trying to be considered a good healer, you aren't going to.
    Compaired to some I am a mediocre healer I know this, That does not mean I dont try like 3 commends in the wall yesterday, but raid, while learng a fight I struggle and I need to learn the fight to do it. but cant learn it or practice enough cos of the intolerence of the communty
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    Attica Jurlon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Compaired to some I am a mediocre healer I know this, That does not mean I dont try like 3 commends in the wall yesterday, but raid, while learng a fight I struggle and I need to learn the fight to do it. but cant learn it or practice enough cos of the intolerence of the communty
    I don't think people care much if you try to play it safe in learning parties, and don't DPS much. If you do run into people like this - definitely let them know you aren't used to the outgoing damage yet and want to learn so that you can add in more DPS. I learned all of A10S and cleared it the same day - I did minimal DPS, as my main focus was keeping the group alive. Over the next few weeks I became more familiar, and I know when I can and cannot swap into cleric's stance, and I deal much more damage than I did in my first clear.

    If you're willing to DPS but you're learning and don't want to go too crazy, I don't see why anyone should complain. It's the people who outright refuse to DPS that end up catching hate from other players in the group. Nobody should be asking for their healers to put out as much DPS as healers in, say, world first groups. As long as you do what you can, where you can, and keep the group alive, there shouldn't be a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elleia View Post
    I don't think people care much if you try to play it safe in learning parties..
    Yes well done Admire you for that but it takes me a little longer to learn fights themselves. Once ive learned the fights its good. Muscle memory or whatever it is. Then to time dps, and think different is another set of skills. All needs practice. I havent found the community as tolerent as you say though, dont mean here, mean random groups. Not here to cry about it though , Its if Ive experienced it others have too. Btw I stick to what I said, dont like dps being forced on me but while its there Ill try. Would like option thats all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Yes well done Admire you for that but it takes me a little longer to learn fights themselves. Once ive learned the fights its good. Muscle memory or whatever it is. Then to time dps, and think different is another set of skills. All needs practice. I havent found the community as tolerent as you say though, dont mean here, mean random groups. Not here to cry about it though , Its if Ive experienced it others have too. Btw I stick to what I said, dont like dps being forced on me but while its there Ill try. Would like option thats all
    I also run with randoms and have never gotten hate for not doing much DPS as I learn, but that could absolutely be a data center difference. The option to not DPS is there, it's just something that is not desired by most players, and player mentality is not something anyone will be able to change easily. SE leaves the option open for healers to DPS, and that's that. It's their content design that leads players to DPS during the large amounts of downtime in duties.

    If they make the game more healing intensive, leading to less downtime, I wouldn't complain, as I would have to heal more to keep up. As it is now, though, I like challenging myself by adding in as much DPS as I can. Taking away cleric stance in duties without changing the amount of healing necessary would lead to outrage and boredom for many healers, so I really don't see this as an answer. I for one would probably stop healing in duties if this happened - just too much downtime.
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    Last edited by Elleia; 02-24-2017 at 05:43 AM.

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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Compaired to some I am a mediocre healer I know this, That does not mean I dont try like 3 commends in the wall yesterday, but raid, while learng a fight I struggle and I need to learn the fight to do it. but cant learn it or practice enough cos of the intolerence of the communty
    Learn the fight as you intend to clear it. If you're there to clear as the support healer, you're there to learn how to dps as much as possible while figuring out where your healing is mandatory. This causes mistakes, stress, communications, corrections, and learning. But in the end the whole team is stronger for it. I'm talking about savage fights here and not casual content.

    If you're only queueing for roulettes, and you aren't comfortable doing any more than minimal dps, no one's going to fault you for it. I've sat in cleric stance for the majority of a run and gotten three commends. I've gotten none. Ive been in parties that required very little healing. I've been in some that required every healing ability in my toolkit, and ONLY healing, to clear. It's all situational.

    But saying that healers should ONLY use healing spells while in group duties, that I disagree with and will argue against until there's a fundamental change to the way this game plays.
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