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  1. #8251
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Did the Vault this past weekend on DRK. It was relatively uneventful although the SMN did die at the second boss due to getting knocked around by mechanics; healer raised them, everything was fine.

    When we got to the last boss, the SMN, who was right at level for the Vault, 57 and modestly geared, died again right before the adds phase.

    Instead of raising them the healer went dps mode for the adds. Then still didn't raise. For the rest of the fight, the SMN was lying there dead.

    We cleared without wiping and I asked the healer why they never raised the SMN. The response was "it's too hard on my mp and I have difficulty managing my mp in this fight as it is."

    I just commed the poor SMN and left instead of arguing about it. I've had to raise dps for that fight and I've never had mp issues. They were a level 60 healer, so not exactly new.
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  2. #8252
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    Mikaeus_The_Lunarch's Avatar
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    Mikaeus Thelunarch
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterysword View Post
    I feel like I've said this before, but why are stacking mechanics in this game so backwards?

    The way they're set up, people who stack get damaged, while people who don't stack take no damage whatsoever. So basically, people who do the mechanic right get punished for doing so, while people who don't get off free.

    Who designs a mechanic this way and why?
    to be honest, i've stopped stacking altogether during diabolos hollow. literally every time i've stacked for either the normal one or the hysteria one, i've died due to people not stacking with us. yeah i know it's my party/alliance that's being bad, but it's just made me ignore the stack marker unless i'm the one with it. other than diabolos hollow though, i haven'tmuch issue with the mechanic as a whole.
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  3. #8253
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    We cleared without wiping and I asked the healer why they never raised the SMN
    Not an mp issue, but it is very annoying to pre-cast an aoe heal to land as altar pyre hits, only to have one dps sitting at the edge, out of aoe heal range. There is no need to be that far away, being closer makes chain-breaking easier as well. I'll always put up my ast bubble just as the last add is dying for people to pick up the buff for the altar pyre that follows right after, but you still get people that refuse to go inside it.

    Both pet peeves of mine. Is annoying to have to go out of my way to heal up people that make no effort to help themselves
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  4. #8254
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    Dreggit's Avatar
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    Helfgrin Dreggit
    World
    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Bis Ex 'farm party' - 6/8 new and undergeared when asking for il250+ (that 6/8 were nowhere close)

    Another Bis Ex farm party. DRK didn't know what tank swapping was and didn't had provoke. Half the raid swore up and down and sideways it's my fault for trying to take the blue add with a green debuff.

    An FC mate asked for help to get the Ishgard barding. I asked all my shells and contacts and they told me if we could get the 3 fates down to trigger the darkscale encounter sure, we did so and our group went from 2 to 17. That FC member was and new player, they were so happy. It was their goal to get it. That was and fun experience
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  5. #8255
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    Not an mp issue, but it is very annoying to pre-cast an aoe heal to land as altar pyre hits, only to have one dps sitting at the edge, out of aoe heal range. There is no need to be that far away...
    Further context: they died near the middle of the room. Having party members die or take damage while they're standing way out at the edge is a pet peeve of mine, too.
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  6. #8256
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    StarRosie's Avatar
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    Sakya Malha
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    I don't quite know if we count POTD among DF stories but Heck it, I'm telling it anyways.

    So I was running POTD with a group, we were on floors 61-70. We had the Pom of Fortune active so monsters drop chests more. We walked into a room and sprung a luring trap, killed everything in the room! Two gold chests dropped (Yay! \o/), open one, got a pom of intuition and the other was a mimic! So we beat the tar out of the mimic and oh boy oh boy he dropped a silver chest, we were all still hurtin' from the luring trap and mimic wombo combo....silver chest was a bomb. o3o We wiped, the salt flowed for the remainder of the night.
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  7. #8257
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    bardaboo's Avatar
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    Kochie Monster
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 60
    Lol I always laugh when i see two people run for the same chest and blow up. I learned early on to keep a safe distance
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  8. #8258
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    aesteval's Avatar
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    With all the complaints about people not knowing how to play their job, it makes me wonder if we'll see something more added to the game as far as teaching and tutorial go. Had a Singularity Reactor run where 2 of the DPS were only using roughly half of their abilities. I may agree with raising the skill floor some, but raising the skill floor by itself won't be enough if players don't use the tools at their disposal.
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  9. #8259
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    Lol I always laugh when i see two people run for the same chest and blow up. I learned early on to keep a safe distance
    I tend to back the heck away from chests if someone else is also diving for it. Because of latency, I know that because I may be in front of someone on my screen, they're actually in front of me and it's better to let them be the sacrifice.
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  10. #8260
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    AlphaFox's Avatar
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bardaboo View Post
    Lol I always laugh when i see two people run for the same chest and blow up. I learned early on to keep a safe distance
    Agreed, as it stands if I see a chest I run away from it when near others.

    So just had a Baelsar's Wall where I finally ran into someone who just upright refused to do anything. DRK, NIN, BLM, and AST(me). Buff up and the DRK runs up to the arch in the wall and stops, just stops and starts spinning while raising his hands up (praise the sun?) and just keeps spinning. After a moment of doing nothing the NIN runs up and aggros, being 1 NIN vs that cluster I had to let him die. The tank then snaps "(Nin) you wanna let me tank!?" To which we all basically said you arn't doing anything. He then runs to us and does the same thing. So we sit down and basically said fine, we wait 5 mins and kick him. DRK then proceeds to laugh at us and aggros the mobs, dies, then complains we did nothing to help. We inform him we are busy filling out reports. He then aggros the dog and brings it over to us, we simply stand up and walk away.

    Once he finally dies, we kick and we get a fellow raid member of mine to tank the rest with no issue. Was gonna be an FC member but game decided to kick both of them into fresh ones. However I just find it funny that tanks want to act like we need to bow down to them, they are easily replaced by anyone who has decent FC or friend on.
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