NIN: Some mudra ninjutsu changes that could not stop thinking.

[rxnin]

I also love NIN as I main it, but one thing I would really like is to be able to perform actions between mudras without, making a bunny appear on my head.

I hope in 4.0 we get to learn "the lost mudra" in Doma with Yugiri, and just be plain awesome!

[Ama_Hamada]

SE needs to update their servers and have less lag/ speed up processing speeds. All there is to it. It effects everything in the game, not just mudras

[Shurrikhan]

The second way is make it impossible to fail mudras and remove ninjutsu. I am thinking of a special UI for NIN mudras. It is a bar contain with ten, chi, jin, and an open slot for the correspond ninjutsu skill to appear. In order to make it impossible to fail, each used mudra will be grayed out if no possible combination is available, so mutiple button press won't work. Also, make it so that you can use other gcd/ogcd skills after mudra and before the use of ninjutsu skills to make fail impossible.

For example: When use jin, chi, and ten, I can use spinning edge before casting huton.
This also allow the creation of future 4th mudra combination such as ten/chi/jin/ten or ten/chi/jin/chi, etc for more cool ninjutsu!

I'd go for that.

A unique UI might look interesting, but the central point would be to simply allow for mudra weaving between multiple weaponskills, and to allow only the mudras that haven't yet been cast during that Ninjutsu. The wasted Ninjutsu uptime should still be punishing enough. Sure, sold.

[AmalonStar]

The key to doing them in the right order without panicking into a double-press or other bunny situation is to arrange the buttons right. The game tricks you by giving you the middle mudra last. Put it between the 30 and 35 mudras. If playing on straight hotbars, you can also make things a lot easier by putting a Ninjutsu button at both ends of the mudras.

For Raiton and Katon, the top sequence is recommended for Lv45+. The bottom sequence is for pre-45.
Suiton isn't as complicated as it looks. Just figure out which of the four combinations works best for you.

Sorry if this has been off topic from the OP. Thank you for the info, I was actually going to look up stuff for nin on my graveyard tonight as to what I should be using for mudras. So for katon and raiton I want to be using the higher lv combination after lv 45?

[Rongway]

Sorry if this has been off topic from the OP.

It's not entirely off topic. Whenever a discussion of the mudra subsystem comes up, some of the problems people bring up can be mitigated with proper action bar organization.

When I say to use a particular sequence from 45 onward, it's because the middle button (Jin) doesn't exist prior to 45, so you're forced to use the other sequence that doesn't include it. Once you get Jin, it's easier to use the sequence that includes Jin because it makes the jutsu a scale rather than an arpeggio.

[AmalonStar]

It's not entirely off topic. Whenever a discussion of the mudra subsystem comes up, some of the problems people bring up can be mitigated with proper action bar organization.

When I say to use a particular sequence from 45 onward, it's because the middle button (Jin) doesn't exist prior to 45, so you're forced to use the other sequence that doesn't include it. Once you get Jin, it's easier to use the sequence that includes Jin because it makes the jutsu a scale rather than an arpeggio.

Oh ok cool, but yea I've already arranged ten chi and Jin on my cross hotbar and have been working on a button pattern for them all. My button set up is similar to the one you posted and I already have patterns memorized for a few of them now. Still arranging my hotbar to include other skills to maximize my dps.

[gumas]

you got annoy with mudra? try drg rng skill between flank or rear while at the same time maintaining dot debuff and botd timer

at least mudra is consistent

[Ekimmak]

I'll certainly say that it's frustrating beyond belief to end up with a messed up mudra because my mouse is broken and believes I was double clicking when I'm not actually double clicking.

But maybe that's just me being bad.

[Mithrahn]

I'm gonna get kinda out of topic here but:-

I know this doesn't contribute much to the topic, but I found that mapping mudras to the NUM pad on keyboard has helped me a lot with this. Properly planned, it can be set up so that any sequence (forward, backward, up, down) can execute a ninjutsu, so it's easier to remember which set is the skill I want, rather than trying to remember mudra orders.

You don't have to remember the order. You only have to remember the last mudra for each ninjutsu.
For example:
In a one-mudra activation, it'll always be Fuuma Shuriken.
In a two-mudra ninjutsu, it'll always be:
Katon - if the 2nd mudra used was Ten
Raiton - if the 2nd mudra used was Chi
Hyoton - if the 2nd mudra used was Jin
(Of course, the first and second mudra used have to be different mudras, but the 2nd mudra will determine what ninjutsu will be casted)

In a three-mudra ninjutsu,
Huton - if the 3rd mudra used was Ten
Doton - if the 3rd mudra used was Chi
Suiton - if the 3rd mudra used was Jin
(Again, of course, the first, second and third mudras used have to be different mudras, but the 3rd mudra will determine what ninjutsu will be casted)


So, Using Ten last will result in Fuuma Shuriken (1-button), Katon (2-button), or Huton (3-button)
Using Chi last will result in Fuuma Shuriken (1-button), Raiton (2-button), or Doton (3-button)
Using Jin last will result in Fuuma Shuriken (1-button), Hyoton (2-button), or Suiton (3-button)

Edit:
http://imageshack.com/a/img921/4166/WEvGWz.png
I made my vertical hotbars this way last time back in early 2016 to help me remember the mudras. That's when I noticed the pattern.

[KuroiKarasu]

I hope they take some cues from Naruto with ninjutsu, since that is where they were told to pull some original ideas for the job. I like the interweaving of global cooldowns with the mudras idea. I bring up Naruto because by the end of the story top tier shinobi could mix their hand signs with others or take a few other actions (mostly attacks) inbetween weaving signs. We should be able to do the same, and it would definitely help how we can utilize the job.