Should healers now be allowed to play how they choose to play?

[vigioX-Sun]

Healer does nothing for 80% of the fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgMe5uHPsE&t=1040s

SCH doesn't use any DPS on this fight and dies to mechanics at around 60%, war and 2 ninjas finish the fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp9mzOxbSJ0

So exactly what does a healer need to be doing when there's no need to heal? Watching netflix? Poking their fairy?

Can't ask for more proof..

[Dsync]

everyone else - seeing as ive run out of posts for the day (good one SE): in conclusion - there are a lot of elitists pricks on this forum. happily they are much rarer in game.

Oh no, you think some of us are elitist pricks because we don't want to play with lazy players ;_; How will we ever live...

Thankfully, we can easily replace people like you who want to be lazy. You're not going to stop kicks happening for lazy people.


Play as lazy as you want, but not on my time.

Edit: Just to mention, based on your idea of what an elitist is: We're all throughout the game world. We just don't mouth off in-game. Sorry to burst the bubble, but we're here. You really think a lot of strangers aren't getting slightly annoyed at their team mates who are expecting a carry? Most will "put up" with it. Doesn't mean they are happy.

[bounddreamer]

Just want to reiterate that if you're healing to the best of your ability and that's all you have time for, genuinely don't have time to dps because of damage or mechanics, no one's expecting the healer to dps at that point.

The expectation begins when the party isn't taking damage and the healer is literally just standing there while the tank is topped off by a HoT or pet.

If that's elitism, then it's not going to hurt my feelings to be elite.

[IttyBitty]

Just want to reiterate that if you're healing to the best of your ability and that's all you have time for, genuinely don't have time to dps because of damage or mechanics, no one's expecting the healer to dps at that point.

When it happens, yeah. But that situation doesn't happen anywhere near as much as people like to think it does.

I've healed tanks that don't use cooldowns, I've healed DPS who think orange means "stand here". I've healed people whose gear is barely skirting the minimum ilevel, or they're actually undergeared and using accessories for a different class to get in. I've -been- the healer barely skirting by minimum ilevels, having to use NPC purchased white garbage to inflate my ilevel (dungeons were not kind to me in early HW).

I've always found time to DPS, from the day I started out playing this game as a babby CNJ at level 1, all the way to level 60 and beyond. Not necessarily as much as I can optimally put out, but there is -always- time.

Always
Be
Casting

[SeriousxSarcasm]

Healer does nothing for 80% of the fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBgMe5uHPsE&t=1040s

SCH doesn't use any DPS on this fight and dies to mechanics at around 60%, war and 2 ninjas finish the fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp9mzOxbSJ0

So exactly what does a healer need to be doing when there's no need to heal? Watching netflix? Poking their fairy?

The second vid is not a good example to bring to this discussion. It's very obviously a new healer. They needed mechanics explained, and there was even a bonus notification after the fight. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, your first vid was spot on, the second is just being petty expecting someone that is probably nervous to be comfortable dpsing. From the title, it was also supposed to be a vid showing off WARs self-healing, not putting down inexperienced healers.

Also as a side note. I have never had a xelphatol run go as smoothly as I saw in that first vid lmao. Congrats to them I guess, but probably 60% of the player base will not be that good at mechanics.

[IttyBitty]

The second vid is not a good example to bring to this discussion. It's very obviously a new healer. They needed mechanics explained, and there was even a bonus notification after the fight. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, your first vid was spot on, the second is just being petty expecting someone that is probably nervous to be comfortable dpsing. From the title, it was also supposed to be a vid showing off WARs self-healing, not putting down inexperienced healers.

Also as a side note. I have never had a xelphatol run go as smoothly as I saw in that first vid lmao. Congrats to them I guess, but probably 60% of the player base will not be that good at mechanics.

The point of the second video is to show that there really isn't a huge healing burden a lot of a time. Nobody's saying anything about how the healer didn't DPS. It's about how 55% is a pretty hefty chunk to be able to burn through without needing a healer. Just like how the first video is demonstrating just how much downtime there is in many of the fights.

[Llus]

The second vid is not a good example to bring to this discussion. It's very obviously a new healer. They needed mechanics explained, and there was even a bonus notification after the fight. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, your first vid was spot on, the second is just being petty expecting someone that is probably nervous to be comfortable dpsing. From the title, it was also supposed to be a vid showing off WARs self-healing, not putting down inexperienced healers.

Also as a side note. I have never had a xelphatol run go as smoothly as I saw in that first vid lmao. Congrats to them I guess, but probably 60% of the player base will not be that good at mechanics.

Second video simply shows that for 60% of the fight there was no healing needed. Obviously the healer was new to the fight and didn't know what the mechanics were, but it still shows the small healing requirements. In the snowcloak video, the healer (if they knew the fight) could have easily DPSed the entire time and let their fairy heal only topping the party off after the AoEs.

[SeriousxSarcasm]

Second video simply shows that for 60% of the fight there was no healing needed. Obviously the healer was new to the fight and didn't know what the mechanics were, but it still shows the small healing requirements. In the snowcloak video, the healer (if they knew the fight) could have easily DPSed the entire time and let their fairy heal only topping the party off after the AoEs.

I see, my mistake then, and thank you for explaining.

[Feyona]

When it happens, yeah. But that situation doesn't happen anywhere near as much as people like to think it doe

I've always found time to DPS, from the day I started out playing this game as a babby CNJ at level 1, all the way to level 60 and beyond. Not necessarily as much as I can optimally put out, but there is -always- time.

Always
Be
Casting

Well sorry but in my experience its the opposite. Like now in end content. Plus Im not talking about dungeons. I am talking about random goups on almost a daily basis that I heal. Do you just play with good groups or friends? Just curious.

[Feyona]

The second vid is not a good example to bring to this discussion. It's very obviously a new healer. They needed mechanics explained, and there was even a bonus notification after the fight. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, your first vid was spot on, the second is just being petty expecting someone that is probably nervous to be comfortable dpsing. From the title, it was also supposed to be a vid showing off WARs self-healing, not putting down inexperienced healers.

Also as a side note. I have never had a xelphatol run go as smoothly as I saw in that first vid lmao. Congrats to them I guess, but probably 60% of the player base will not be that good at mechanics.

Neither of them are good examples, they are both easy content these pro healer dps stances are loaded with posts trying to say that healers got nothing to do but dps. What needs to be shown is anew group learning a10s or something