Totally agree with Yoshida in terms of game content, too easy then too hard.

[Martin_Arcainess]

So at the fanfest a question was asked about the games difficulty and that it was too easy and asked if they could have harder content. Yoshida's response was spot I say. People complain it was too easy, so we gave you Alexander A1-A4S, it was too hard, heck even when Midas came out people said it was too hard, A6S......But the A9-A12S was considered easy but thats what they want. They want a good high clear rate on raids and now people are saying it's too easy.

I all like the good challenge over the next one but also something that not gonna make me quite the game because I've been stuck on A3S/A6S for a while........

Thoughts on this?

[Dalmacus]

Can't handle soars proper, complains about difficulty Kappa // ?
Is what i typed at reddit when this question came on during PLL.

In the end people will always complain.

[bswpayton]

So at the fanfest a question was asked about the games difficulty and that it was too easy and asked if they could have harder content. Yoshida's response was spot I say. People complain it was too easy, so we gave you Alexander A1-A4S, it was too hard, heck even when Midas came out people said it was too hard, A6S......But the A9-A12S was considered easy but thats what they want. They want a good high clear rate on raids and now people are saying it's too easy.

I all like the good challenge over the next one but also something that not gonna make me quite the game because I've been stuck on A3S/A6S for a while........

Thoughts on this?

That people just will never be satisfied either way someones always gona have an opinion so I think that the devs just have to do what they feel is best as far as challenge in the game, with other things Id def say we the players should have more say but difficulty is very subjective.

[Ghishlain]

It's unfortunate because there are enough voices on both sides of the coin that when one is satisfied and other is not, there's a loud amount of protesting from one side that eventually gets filtered as "general population of players screaming" when the protests for one side and the protests from the other aren't the same groups of players.

Ideally, the best solution is to generate enough content to satisfy both sides of the spectrum but that's resource intensive though I guess there's hope too since Yoshi-P has mentioned doing content strictly for challenge in 4.0.

[Genaxx]

Did the person in question say savage specifically or everything else? Because if its everything else then yeah make it harder.

Otherwise they should change the name of Expert Roulette to Endgame Roulette.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Did the person in question say savage specifically or everything else? Because if its everything else then yeah make it harder.

Otherwise they should change the name of Expert Roulette to Endgame Roulette.

It was specifically referencing EX Primals. But most "farm" groups I get into can't do Sophia, the "easiest" of the 3.0 primals. Theres also the "must skip soar, tank lb 2nd" mentality. Don't ask for harder content if you can't do mechanics.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Personally i feel 9-11 is a pretty good difficulty. though i feel A12S is easier than it should be. (Heck my group hasnt cleared it yet, and i still think its way too easy for a final battle)

Personally thats where i think the middle ground should be, progression is easy, and the final battle is A4S difficult.

[Kosmos992k]

Players : It's too hard!
SE : OK, we nerfed it, hows that?
Players : It's too easy!
SE : OK, we'll make it harder.
Players : It's too hard!
...
...
SE : OK Nerfs incoming, easier next time.
Players : It's too easy and casual, we need challenging raids!
SE : OK, normal and savage modes have at it.
Players : Savage is too hard!
SE : (under their breath) they said they wanted that...
SE : OK, that was too finely balanced, this next patch is better
Players : It's too easy!
SE : OK, try again, it's better now.
Players : It's too easy. It's too hard. It's too easy. It's too hard, we need a mid-core option.
SE : Oh good grief, we can't win can we?

Yoshi and team cannot plan and balance around the opposing points of view. IMHO they should ignore both and plot a course to balance somewhere in between the two sides of the argument, and ignore the naysayers.

[FeliAiko]

I love the Gordias argument for "when we make things harder people complain".

1. People want next raid to be harder than Final Coil (which was made in response to people claiming Second Coil was too hard, according to Yoshi)
2. Yoshi says that Gordias difficulty would be set between Second Coil and Final Coil
3. Gordias ends up not even being this, but instead the hardest of all raid tiers thus far

So if SE had designed Gordias properly to begin with, and then got complaints about it being 'too hard' then I would co-sign his 'I don't trust anyone' statement (because a raid just above Final Coil difficulty wouldn't be 'too hard', in my view). Instead they made a mess of it, spending the rest of 3.x trying to do damage control to the scene (with Midas and now Creator), whilst trying to act like they were only trying to deliver what the players wanted from the onset.

[bass9020]

Once again the issue is they made 2 extremes too easy and too hard. Instead they should have added story mode with no rewards, coil difficulty mode (aka normal) and then savage mode. A good majority of people myself included would have been satfified with that. But instead we get the usual excuses of team is too small, not enough funds, etc.