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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentacus View Post
    it's amazing that you've not twigged onto the point everyone have been making yet:
    I think a big reason why she hasn't is due to the choice of words to criticize her gameplay. If she interprets any of it as condescending, whether real or imagined, she will not absorb the criticism no matter how constructive it might be in reality. It's just how some minds work.

    For example, anytime someone says, "You're standing around doing nothing." I'm not saying it's wrong. It is a cold hard fact, no doubt. But the air around it is negative, and the lack of tone of the internet doesn't allow the person being told to read your expressions. If the healer has a negative mentality, as many do, the criticism gets rejected. I don't have the exact solution to get Sylphies to pull the trigger on Cleric, but I do know for me, what ultimately worked was remembering my aspirations to be a really good healer in this game. And in order to do that, you must optimize your toolkit. Now I absolutely love the support that heals and DPS brings to the group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I think a big reason why she hasn't is due to the choice of words to criticize her gameplay. If she interprets any of it as condescending, whether real or imagined, she will not absorb the criticism no matter how constructive it might be in reality. It's just how some minds work.
    Firstly 'she' is refering to me, I presume, is not talking about or asking about efficiency, I was discussing playstyle and choice of, or lack of according to the person above. Secondly, It is not necessary to dps to be a good healer. Just go in instances where you have to heal bad groups or people learning like I do and then you wont have the space to dps. Am I a bad healer? Thats subjective but I do get people through instances and get quite a few commends. Thirdly, I'm amazed that you havent twigged what the subject of the post was about. Having said that I would like to ask you how I play the game cos you seem to know more about that than I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    ... tanks do not have to change the playstyle with a change of stance they stll use the same skills...
    Oh my ..
    You are wrong.
    At least, warriors lose a big Part of the Healtpool, they do less enmity and over all, they lose the possibility to use inner Beast, which gives them 20% dmg-reduction!
    This is a coremechanic of Warriors!!
    Overall... switching the stance as a War will cause 12 seconds CD to both stances. Now tell me again how tose 5sec Cleric wipe the Grp.

    And again, may question was unanswered. What do you do in your spare time?
    a) nothing
    b) overheal
    c) dps
    R.S.V.P.


    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Firstly 'she' is refering to me, I presume, is not talking about or asking about efficiency, I was discussing playstyle and choice of, or lack of according to the person above. Secondly, It is not necessary to dps to be a good healer. Just go in instances where you have to heal bad groups or people learning like I do and then you wont have the space to dps. Am I a bad healer? Thats subjective but I do get people through instances and get quite a few commends. Thirdly, I'm amazed that you havent twigged what the subject of the post was about. Having said that I would like to ask you how I play the game cos you seem to know more about that than I do.
    1) yes and everyone says, play like you want. I'd like to understand this boring playstile though
    2) you don't know if you recieve a bad grp. If you are well equipped, only 2 or 3 bosses will completely need you to heal only.
    3) again, you can do what you want. Not my Problem. But you seem to be unable to understand the pooint the pro-dps-leage is doing here.

    Btw. I healed a lowlwvwldungeon yesterday. Cause i have bad gear (still leveling) i was constantly healing 90% of the time. Was okay, all good. It was necessary. Don't think that we will DPS no matter what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feyona View Post
    Firstly 'she' is refering to me, I presume, is not talking about or asking about efficiency, I was discussing playstyle and choice of, or lack of according to the person above. Secondly, It is not necessary to dps to be a good healer. Just go in instances where you have to heal bad groups or people learning like I do and then you wont have the space to dps. Am I a bad healer? Thats subjective but I do get people through instances and get quite a few commends. Thirdly, I'm amazed that you havent twigged what the subject of the post was about. Having said that I would like to ask you how I play the game cos you seem to know more about that than I do.
    I am not you quoted the right person as your post doesn't pertain to anything I'm talking about. And I was speaking in your defense BTW.

    That being said, I can't or won't tell you to play. From my experience, healers are kicked more for DPSing rather than only healing. It's not because of the DPS though, it's because they ignore healing for whatever reason and people are dying.

    All I can do is encourage you to try and DPS when it is safe to do so. I can understand if it makes you uncomfortable, but if you're running as SCH your downtime and safety is far greater than the other healers. The fairy is capable of handling anywhere from 70-99% of the healing depending on group and instance, and it takes very little time to apply/reapply shields. If you can get shadow flare and bane up, the trash dies significantly faster, which means your tanks gets out of danger faster. This is part of your duty as SCH (heals with kills)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I am not you quoted the right person as your post doesn't pertain to anything I'm talking about.

    All I can do is encourage you to try and DPS when it is safe to do so. I can understand if it makes you uncomfortable, but if you're running as SCH your downtime and safety is far greater than the other healers. The fairy is capable of handling anywhere from 70-99% of the healing depending on group and instance, and it takes very little time to apply/reapply shields. If you can get shadow flare and bane up, the trash dies significantly faster, which means your tanks gets out of danger faster. This is part of your duty as SCH (heals with kills)
    Just read back but im sorry if there was any misunderstanding. Posts are limited, but Its not true that Ive only paid attention to those I like. Im understanding everyones point of view I may not agree but Im stll listening. Thank you for your effort. This is to others please dont slap people here for posting their experienes. Craized I get t situations like that all the time and wonder sometimes if Im playing the same game as some of the healers here that get all this space to dps. Thinks its to defend their position, excluding those that can fit SF, bioll, bio, etc in a 15 sec window ofc
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    Last edited by Feyona; 02-23-2017 at 05:27 AM.