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  1. #91
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    Cidel's Avatar
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    On a scale of 1-10, how disappointed are you so far with Stormblood news?

    I'm @ like 7.5 right now. I am disappointed (but not all that surprised) by what was revealed so far.

    When it comes right down to it for me, all we've had was what 2 new jobs are coming (honestly I care little about the roles chosen, and I'm not a fan of either job, but I was prepared for disappointment in this department since the datamined shenanigans), showing off new primals and beastmen, and some dungeons and overworld/town-centric areas (if I left anything out here, its because it didn't grab my attention). These are things I already expected. Showing them to me does nothing for hype anymore because smoke and mirrors and shiny glitter-paint coated half-baked ideas and incomplete concepts have been a part of the usual diet with the exception of a handful of pleasant surprises.

    And of course, people are allowed to get excited over these new zones, enemies, QoL fixes and jobs- everybody has different preferences and expectations; I can't take that away from anybody. There are people content and even pleased with how things are right now and new environments and at least one of the 2 new jobs are right up their alley. But I empathize with those who are hungry for information about what life at level 70 (or 60 to 70) is going to look like because all the new areas, enemy models and swimming won't mask "this is a weekly tomestone allowance hamsterwheel" model for long. I don't exactly hate the tomestone gear system, but are there plans for anything else besides that or their boss-gauntlet raids? Diadem was looking like such an alternative, but it was poorly conceived which is why we're getting a reboot; but will they update that throughout SB to stay relevant? Yeah, Eureka was mentioned for relic and something about timed spawns, and only knowing those 2 facts seems to set off some red flags about what they'll do with it.

    Please note, this is me mulling over what has been shown so far. And before anybody tries to put words into my mouth, I'm not asking for the system to get turned on its head, I want to know what or if they're adding anything to the model. Like, for a shallow example, content to do with your FC/linkshell buddies who aren't your raid statics that don't need a perfect party of 4 or 8? Diadem and Aquapolis touched upon these possibilities but Diadem was... Diadem and Aquapolis is more like a novelty right now.

    Yes, more is coming. How much more? I don't know. How well thought-out is it? I don't know. Will it be more of the same or make some innovations like PotD? I don't know. But what has been shown and talked about (or even not talked about) so far just doesn't grab me like it has others here because I personally am more interested in the specifics of content, rather than how pretty and new things look, and I think some of the other unimpressed people are too. Respect that like I respect people overjoyed about what they're seeing. Opinions, playstyles and preferences. The live letter didn't do much to put me at ease either, and saying "it's coming in 4.x" on anything doesn't sound like a good answer to me, because I know when egicarbuncle glamours finally came in 3.x. I'm willing to give them more time to announce stuff a bit more closer to the expansion, but right now I'm just teetering on the fence with my sub, which as a legacy player who hasn't unsubbed yet, is a little somber.
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  2. #92
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    Fevelle's Avatar
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    Fiona Greentear
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    I was expecting being 11 disappointed with it, but I'm like a 2 (because no new healer).
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  3. #93
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    I'm actually very excited for the new expansion. It seems to be much bigger than the HW one. We're getting Ala Mhigo (for which I was ready to settle with just fine), but also the entirety of Othard! HW had a small region of Aldenard and it was already a pretty large expansion compared to most other MMOs. In Stormblood, we're getting an entire new continent the size of Aldenard. I mean, how great is that?
    I love the aesthetics of the new expansion. While I wasn't hyped for Samurai before this recent reveal, because at first I thought we're getting only Ala Mhigo and Samurai fits more with Doma, so my thinking was that we should get it in 5.0 when we go to Doma, SE pleasantly surprised me with Doma in the upcoming 4.0, so now I'm stoked about it. ^^
    And while I would have liked Dancer as healer, seeing as I main healer, I am fine with my SCH remaining my main because I still love playing it even after 3 years of playing this game.

    I say, bring on the new expansion, I can't wait to sink my teeth into it! ^^
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  4. #94
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    Im excited for stormblood, so much so that i will be pre-ordering, although in general i dont like the "Idea of pre ordering".
    The reason i started playing FFXIV 1.5 years ago was because i was looking for a mmo that focused on story, large beautifull areas, many dungeons, bosses, raids, trinity based, regular updates, few bugs...
    What i have seen so far showed me that squeenix are continuing to focus on these bases. And If the past history proves anything, we should still expect as time goes some few "stabs/tries" at different content like we saw with PoTD for example.

    Tldr: not on a hype train, but very happy and excited for stormblood
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Automedius View Post
    @Karis

    You need to understand both sides of the spectrum. In your case, you like battle content, which you will always get. For people like me, the minority that only focuses on crafting content, playing the market board, glamour/character content, this doesn't exactly make a huge appeal, ya know? As you know, the expansion falls short in that, which is why I give it an 8.
    10 new levels for Doh/DoL. New recipes. Additional housing, which means increased crafted furniture demands, and more far eastern furniture. I too tend to focus on crafting and they've said nothing yet that would warrant me giving this expansion an 8 for disappointment based on crafting/gathering alone. To characterize that as "lacking" when it looks to be more than what we receive at the start of 3.0 is suspect.
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  6. #96
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    Disappointment is the wrong thing to ask for to be honest. Its more like that the hype just went away with the last Live Letter.
    I will still buy the game, but hype? No not anymore. I am just concerned that the game will turn into the same system for the next 2 years. Roulettes for your tomes, 24man raid with trash and boss battles, 2 new dungeons every patch, only 4 raids every 2n patch...

    I do understand many people to be excited and happy about. But I really want to remind them to think more than just the first few months after release and be more criticizing. Ofcourse everyone will have a new environment, new skill rotations, etc. Yet, we have to think what will happen in the next 2 years.
    The quality of cutscenes is going to stay like this, the character creator will remain empty featured, the battle system will go through adjustments (not a revamp like getting rid of GCD and turning it into a Combo-system). The bard might remain "mage", while Machinist is still better to utilize for movement (since procs).

    And to those who think to tell everyone not to salt around. I dont know whats wrong to be concerned about what will become and what will happen. Preparing for someones future (especially after playing since 1.x, 2.x or 3.x times) shouldnt be something to bad mouth about. In the end we all want the same, having fun in FFXIV. Its not always about complaining, its about improving the game and its features.
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 02-20-2017 at 11:14 PM.

  7. #97
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    Why do people feel the need to argue in threads that they dont really care about anyway? If you are not disappointed or dont want to rate something that isnt out yet, why do some feel the need to argue endlessly. I am quite sure that its more than fine if you love everything so far and feel like this will be very good but please at the same time understand that people might feel another way too. I am quite sure that the OP is fine if you post a answer that you are not disappointed but why argue so much with her about things? I mean its completely subjective anyway and one mans treasure is another mans trash.

    Well on topic:

    I will wait with my final judgment after playing through SB but my hype for this expansion is 0. Fanfests are imo there to make one feel hyped and even though I enjoyed the look of the new continent and I know that the quests will probably be alright too I still cant shake the feeling that maybe they wont handle it right, so that it will feel like the Uldah situation all again.

    Also having only two new jobs is a little sad and also that we have no new race..but at the same time I was fine with it as long as they improve the customization..yet we know now that there wont be much improvements anyway. Having not all of those fulfilled is fine since it can take quite the time to create it but doing nothing of them..thats just sad. They also already said that the normal pattern will stay the way it is. So no real change there too.

    The talk about the battle system overhaul in the liveletter (?) also kinda hints that we wont get that big of changes anyway with means that it will probably stay mostly the same.

    For me its just feels like we get more and more things in the cash shop..and that FF14 is profitable for SE and yet at the same time we get barely anything back. New continents and quests are something that is expected in any good MMO expansion so I cant really say that those are the reason that I would buy it now. And after some decisions in their main story I cant really feel exited about it anymore so the only thing left for me is the hope that we will get a better endgame in SB that is also good for the midcore or casual crowd since I dont raid.

    I will buy it since I still enjoy things in the game and since I have some friends there that I like to chat with. And its not that I dont have things that I liked. Yet I just dont feel the hype that I had with HW.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 02-20-2017 at 11:06 PM.

  8. #98
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    Still extremely hyped for Stormblood! The new areas look awesome, I can't wait to meet the new characters, and oh my god the OST is going to be amazing. I am a tad disappointed with the lack of Ala Amigho stuff though. Also I understand that some people are disappointed and that's fine. I just hope that they wait till Yoshida releases more news about Return to Ivalice, battle changes, and all that good stuff. If not I hope they find a game they can enjoy again. :c
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  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by XSamsaraLotusX View Post
    They did say it wont be a remake .
    All thewy will do is take some "bad" akills.
    Then some more skills like provoke and add them to a role poll of skills.then combine some skills. Then add new skill. In the end you will have as many skills as now.
    Pal will be the MT he is now and WAR the ot.
    Is that all?(sarcastic but not in a hostile way) Lol sounds like it might as well be a remake. Thats a lot to be changed. I remember Yoshida saying something about 2.0 (level 50) being more in line with his ideal skill system.. I dont remember how it was quoted exactly but I also think I remember him saying he wanted it to have faster gameplay and to allow for more room to deal with mechanics and less tunnel vision problems trying to perfect rotation. Honestly, remake or not, that sounds like a huge deal to me and i cannot wait to see what he actually does.

    I feel like that is going to be the biggest factor for me, in determining if I am happy with SB and the future of the game.
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  10. #100
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    I mean they're judging news that has been released officially, many people were hoping there would be many changes throughout the foundation of the game, that sadly isn't entirely the case. For instance, the weekly lockout and only two classes this expansion, these are things people can legitimately point at and say they're unhappy with. They're two huge reasons in my eyes that might make the expansion a little less desirable in the long run, does that mean I'm totally unhappy, no. But is there plenty new to off set those revelations? Yes there is.
    Complaints about mechanical things like loot lockouts or the basic core systems of the game in general got old 3 years ago though. An Expansion pack expands the content of a game, it doesn't completely rewrite the fundamental core of the game. Yet the OP and many others seem to think that it somehow can and should do just that, when it simply wasn't on the table at all.

    It's like crying about the cadence of patch content updates.

    I honestly think that what it generally comes down to is that some players have the expectation that FFXIV will be like other games that they like, instead of a thing unto itself. I think anyone doing that would be better coming to terms with ffxiv as it is.
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