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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    but everything is there for everyone to enjoy.
    That's why WoW and Rift put in dungeon-finder though.

    Ease of access at the expense of the game's scope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    That's why WoW and Rift put in dungeon-finder though.

    Ease of access at the expense of the game's scope.
    You can still run around, nothing is taking that away from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    You can still run around, nothing is taking that away from you.
    How do you know that?

    If they make most content instanced, then you can't just run around freely.

    Also, even if they did leave players that one vestige/scrap of gameplay to play with, they'd still be depriving the servers of other elements, such as solidarity and community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    solidarity and community.
    Join or form a Linkshell or three with players like yourself and build up your friend list with players you enjoyed meeting while leve questing if you want solid community.

    Leave the casual gamers alone who do not wish to be a part of your solid community and prefer to play with random folks like themselves via a grouping tool instead.

    Forcing them to join your solid community of Linkshells or be on your friend list in order to run content is only going to piss you and them off.
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    Last edited by Crica; 10-19-2011 at 06:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    How do you know that?

    If they make most content instanced, then you can't just run around freely.

    Also, even if they did leave players that one vestige/scrap of gameplay to play with, they'd still be depriving the servers of other elements, such as solidarity and community.
    Why are you saying everything is instanced? The notes say cross-server party-finder AND dungeon finder. I can very well see everyone being ported to the same server for the duration of the party. It would be fun times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    Why are you saying everything is instanced? The notes say cross-server party-finder AND dungeon finder. I can very well see everyone being ported to the same server for the duration of the party. It would be fun times.
    Yeah... but that's what I've been saying is bad this whole time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellohwell View Post
    Yeah... but that's what I've been saying is bad this whole time...
    Then don't use the optional tool to play with random people if you won't enjoy it - just play with your friends and linkshell mates instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    Then don't use the optional tool to play with random people if you won't enjoy it - just play with your friends and linkshell mates instead.
    Sorry Crica, but most people don't understand this. You'll hear copious amounts of complaints about how this will "ruin the community" without anyone willing to take the initiative to form said community.

    I'm an MMO veteran. I've played EQ, FFXI, WoW, Rift, Age of Conan and now FFXIV. Despite all these "community-killing tools" that people are so adamant about stopping from being implemented, I've never had -any- problem finding a good community in any MMO (Yes, you heard right. This even means WoW!) Even to this day, good communities exist in all MMOs. The problem is, the same people who complain about the tools are the same people who feel they have to use them, when in reality if you do a little leg work you can find great guilds/linkshells within -any- MMO.

    You don't like cross-server dungeon tools? Don't use them. You want to be a part of a community? Then take some damn initiative and help FORM a community. You don't get to just walk into a game and instantly be welcomed by the playerbase. Make friends, talk to people... if they don't talk back... guess what? They don't want to talk to you. And they don't have to.
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    as a monk you can find the hole and fill it with a fist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crica View Post
    Then don't use the optional tool to play with random people if you won't enjoy it - just play with your friends and linkshell mates instead.
    That so isn't the point. I alone can't change the dynamic of the server, or lack thereof as the case may be if such a system gets implemented. Nothing anyone does matters in an entrance lobby masquerading as an MMO.
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