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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    According to the November unofficial census, Cactuar posted .41% clears of Creator compared to Balmung's .33%. That's a difference of a meager .8%. So... congratulations? You beat a non-raid focused server.
    Amusing that you assumed it was a pissing contest when we openly bash every server, including our own. Confirmation bias on our end is that ninety nine out of one hundred blizzard wizards are Balmunglers. Oh, and the handful of "Ruin" mages I've run across.
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    I generally don't use Moon Guard as something to aspire to. However, I believe Wyrmrest Accord is not quite as large. That aside, its been a very long time since I played WoW (I quite during Cataclysm). I'm speaking more from what I knew compared to what exists today. Considering WoW Hemorrhaged subs with the failure that was WoD, I couldn't begin to imagine when one server or another became highly populated or not.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    That aside, its been a very long time since I played WoW (I quite during Cataclysm). I'm speaking more from what I knew compared to what exists today.
    You're misremembering. During Cataclysm, they had one guild flirting with top 500 and then almost nothing else above 5000.

    Edit - I only stress this point because this WoW server was used as an example of why a large RP server is a good thing, but there's really no basis for this opinion. If anything, it reinforces the opposite--a large RP server is a mediocre thing at best. There comes a point where the best decision is to close the server, even to paid transfers, and offer free transfers off.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonea View Post
    There comes a point where the best decision is to close the server, even to paid transfers, and offer free transfers off.
    Yoshida wouldn't do this, and SE wouldn't let him do this, since Balmung prints banks, which then print money in the form of transfers in and fantasias.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by NolLacnala View Post
    Yoshida wouldn't do this, and SE wouldn't let him do this, since Balmung prints banks, which then print money in the form of transfers in and fantasias.
    So you posit that people on, say, Faerie don't buy Fantasias? That RPers wouldn't buy them unless they play on Balmung? This reasoning doesn't make any sense to me.

    Transfers I'll grant you, but I counter with an unquantified monetary disadvantage: how many people quit the game before they even start because they can't play with their friends? Or quit because they want to both RP and find available housing, or any of the other issues in the OP? Megaservers help no one.
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  6. #126
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    So, as a hypothetical, if every server on the Aether Data Center was merged into a single Mega Server, would you consider that a good thing, or a bad thing? Such a merger would include stacking the Housing Districts so no one loses a home, so say, Gilgamesh does Wards 1-12, Balmung 13-24, Mateus 25-36, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonea View Post
    So you posit that people on, say, Faerie don't buy Fantasias? That RPers wouldn't buy them unless they play on Balmung? This reasoning doesn't make any sense to me.

    Transfers I'll grant you, but I counter with an unquantified monetary disadvantage: how many people quit the game before they even start because they can't play with their friends? Or quit because they want to both RP and find available housing, or any of the other issues in the OP? Megaservers help no one.
    Probalby, but the current money speaks for itself. A dollar today is worth two tomorrow.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    So, as a hypothetical, if every server on the Aether Data Center was merged into a single Mega Server, would you consider that a good thing, or a bad thing?
    I fail to see what this has to do with OP, but I've already answered this question: Megaservers help no one. Surely you understand there are issues of economy, name uniqueness, massive crowding of the cities and overworld re: hunts, large scale FATEs.... There are other games that do this sort of thing (quite well, in fact), but they were designed with systems in mind to compensate for the inherent flaws from the beginning. You can't just smash everything together if it's not designed for that. Megaservers help no one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonea View Post
    I fail to see what this has to do with OP, but I've already answered this question: Megaservers help no one. Surely you understand there are issues of economy, name uniqueness, massive crowding of the cities and overworld re: hunts, large scale FATEs.... There are other games that do this sort of thing (quite well, in fact), but they were designed with systems in mind to compensate for the inherent flaws from the beginning. You can't just smash everything together if it's not designed for that. Megaservers help no one.
    Except for the legions of people transferring to the busy servers explicitly for the crowd. Its almost as if people want to be on a big server and theres a vocal minority who are trying to push a de-centralization agenda.....hmmmm
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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonea View Post
    I don't even
    I posit nothing. Are you even replying to the right person? Stop reading between lines and jumping to conclusions based on your vacuous, pre-conceived bias.

    Here, this will be the first time I have ever written the word "Megaserver." Phew, new words are hard, forgive me.

    Bear in mind I am neither defending nor attacking, simply stating fact. Yoshi could very well announce cessation of all in-transfers tomorrow.
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