What's with all the hate toward mentors?

[MihaelB]

A noticeable enough amount of mentors don't do their part and are below the average baseline of what should be acceptable in the game.

[Ageofwar]

They're jealous of our glorious crowns obviously

with that attitude you are part of the problem and not the solution

[Lilseph]

I am sure it not hate toward them, but people that are wearing the title but don't do their job. There is also unrealistic expectations being thrown at them. Some people do it for the crown/mount, others to help.

with that attitude you are part of the problem and not the solution

Pretty sure it's sarcasm.

[QuarIm]

If you do not want to mentor, remove the crown. No one will expect anything if you wear no crown. If you do wear a crown, I expect you to be willing to mentor. Players should be able to give mentors a thumbs up/down. Too many down compared to up, and you lose the mentor status and need to get X amount of new recommendations in order to regain mentor status.

[Yeol]

People tend to forget that Mentor is your average player who is willing to give advice. He is not some FFXIV Pro.
Also, there are many good Mentors out there but you won't see anyone mentioning them on the forums.

[Martin_Arcainess]

Most of the hate mentors get are generated by themselves.

[alimdia]

If all these people who spend countless paragraphs throwing salt at the system would actually sign up to be a mentor and be the change they seek the system would vastly improve.

Instead all we get is excuses.

The common forum argument to not become a mentor is that they don't meet the requirements, but then they spend hours on the forums saying the bar to become a mentor is too low and SE should raise it (???)

Another common argument is that they don't want to be part of the same system as those "bad mentors", does that mean they're more interested in having a special status that "baddies" can't reach than in helping new players? Isn't that contradictory?

If the system is bad is because you, the self proclaimed good players, abandoned the system and left it at the mercy of those who just want the crown and the mount, and if you're truly interested in providing new players a good experience you would sign up instead of throwing shade at the system here, because SE seems to have no intentions to change it.

[JunseiKei]

Not to complain, but I've seen a few posts hating on mentors pretty badly. What's the deal? What's the opinion of the general public? I think people are expecting too much from mentors. Every mentor is different.

It boils down to mentors can do nothing right.

Help a player that may be struggling or failing, and if the advise is unwelcomed, they are immediately reprimanded.
Other times, there are genuinely "bad" mentors (can substitute bad for simply impatient in many cases) that expect players to perform to a certain threshold. This can be as little (or as much, depending on your viewpoint) as healers not DPSing, small pulls and not speedrunning. They'll remove players simply because they actually don't conform to their ideals or style of play and anything below that is garbage.
Then there are mentors that will do or say nothing unless they are personally asked questions whose answers may be found on Google.

Like everything in life, the bad travels far faster, and louder, than the good. So even if bad mentors are few and far in between, they will be the thing you'll probably only ever hear about, especially on forums.

EDIT:
Also, the system heavily relies on people actually being good people. Considering people aren't ostracized for being assholes in the gaming community, you'll always run into this kind of an issue [in NA; unsure about EU]. IE: If a player is a jerk, but is a really good player, they are often "tolerated."

This is a great read for a bit of an understanding.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I am sure it not hate toward them, but people that are wearing the title but don't do their job. There is also unrealistic expectations being thrown at them. Some people do it for the crown/mount, others to help.



Pretty sure it's sarcasm.

Sticking out tongue wasn't enough the post should of been in italics :P

[Chevronone]

I think the majority of "hate" towards mentors is rather misdirected. I feel it's more to do with SE than the actual mentors personally. People can't express their frustration directly with SE (other than in-game suggestion box) about the lack of standards/requirements with becoming and maintaining the Mentor. Regardless, SE suggests posting suggestions/feedback on the forums in their auto-reply to in-game feedback, so here people are.