Mentor Players Kicking newer players from Duty Ques for low DPS

[bounddreamer]

As a mentor who mentors, when I load in one of the first things I do is look at other players' gear, especially those I didn't queue with. And let me tell you, sometimes my response is, out loud, "oh my god. Oh my gawwd." OP's gear isn't the worst I've seen. First week of Xelphatol my party had a BLM with the Bismarck weapon. Not the crafted one.

Though I've never initiated a vote kick against someone for pulls taking forever, I have loudly suffered (my poor partner and TS mates) through dungeons that can be cleared in 20 min taking 45-50 min instead.

For Sohr Khai, if the first 5+ min really were that bad, the party could have a reasonable expectation of failing Hraesvelgr at the end. There is a soft enrage. You run out of platforms and you die. I've been in a group where it happened.

Based on how long that first pull took, the others may have decided they'd never make it past enrage. But some attempt should have been made to coach or otherwise discuss this with the underperforming dps before voting to kick.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Not sure if this was asked before, since I stopped reading some pages before, so I'm sorry if it's a double.

How did OP know it was the mentor kicking?
You don't get to know who started the vote kick and if there were not 3 mentors in there you can't be sure at all it was "the" mentor who started the vote. o.O

Unless, of course, the person said "I will start a vote kick to get you out of here."...

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Since you can only que for the mentor roulette solo, the other two people are normally strangers, so that person couldn't have his friend vote too. Which means that at least one other person was always the same opinion as the mentor. If this happens once it might just be a mistake but twice in a row for the same reason? Sounds to me that there is more behind it than we know. (Also you can never be sure if it was truly the mentor that started the kick. Just because they voiced their negative opinion on it does not make it 100% sure that they were behind it)
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Actually, unless there were multiple mentors in those instances.
It's possible a mentor never even agreed to either kick.

The other two players could have initiated and passed the kick without the mentor's vote...

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Actually, unless there were multiple mentors in those instances.
It's possible a mentor never even agreed to either kick.

The other two players could have initiated and passed the kick without the mentor's vote...

This, it only takes 2 votes to kick a person. And since the OP hasn't responded in a while, I'm betting there was something else going on.

[ArikDimas]

For Sohr Khai, if the first 5+ min really were that bad, the party could have a reasonable expectation of failing Hraesvelgr at the end. There is a soft enrage. You run out of platforms and you die. I've been in a group where it happened.

It's been a while since I've run that, but don't all the bosses have a soft enrage there? I think the moogle casts an additional Mog Holy each time, and the thunder horse will destroy a wall with each jump.

[JunseiKei]

It's been a while since I've run that, but don't all the bosses have a soft enrage there? I think the moogle casts an additional Mog Holy each time, and the thunder horse will destroy a wall with each jump.

First time I ran SK was with other members of my raid group:
The moogles we mostly left alone, but the stacking regens did make it annoying. We were treating it like T12 (kill bennu, raised, kill bennu again). Nothing healing couldn't get through.
The horse we never used the walls. We stood in the middle and just ate the vul stacks. Never did enough damage to kill any of us and it died far too fast to make it a worry since it can be hit virtually the entire time. Again, nothing healing couldn't get through.

Didn't learn the real solution to the mechanic until expert on some other day. I'm sure at minimum ilevel, it would most likely spell wipe.