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  1. #21
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    Arcell's Avatar
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    Arc Jurado
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    Well if a summoner job comes out I still couldn't see them controlling the Primals. I mean we're trying to remove them from Eorzea with good reason lol.
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    This leads me to believe that since all jobs/classes will not get the summoning ability, that they are certainly implying that it will be restricted to one.
    This statement is contradicted by the quotation you gave which says "certain jobs." Jobs is plural.
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    This statement is contradicted by the quotation you gave which says "certain jobs." Jobs is plural.

    I can edit it if you like. I believe you missed the point.
    Not all classes will have the ability, so this means that either.

    These free company primals won't be available to every class, which would be hard to have a justified reason for.
    OR, that there could be many different types of summons for different classes. And hell, the "taming" aspect could be considered another version of summoning.

    Yoshida has now stated that there will be a summoner class in an interview. He has also stated that primals will be summoned through free companies, which I'm pretty sure is not the same.

    So quit fishing, thanks.

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    Because we don't know EXACTLY how the system will work, there is only speculation.

    For all we know, your Free Company unlocks a primal, but only Summoners within your free company can summon it.

    Or it takes a full party of 8 players from your Free Company to summon it.

    Or it takes a full party of 8 players, one of which has to be a summoner to summon it.
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  5. #25
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    i want a summoner so bad, but this company summons i think this has nothing to do with the summoner job, im still waiting for my summoner job :P
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  6. #26
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    I dunno if you guys missed this but it mite clear a few things up: (Thanks Reinheart for the translation!) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...hl=en_US&pli=1

    YoshiP - For post New FFXIV summoning system we have 2 ideas. One is pet type where you can summon monsters or spirits, and for calling out banshin/primal we are thinking of something else. To actually call summon 1 player community can have the right/key to hold and and in 2 weeks having everyone charge their summoning gauge and once summoning it goes back to nature. Summoning with a MMO feel.

    GameWatch - Whats your idea on what type of situation can you summon primals?
    YoshiP - I think it’s OK to call whenever you like. When you can’t kill the boss in a free company using it as a final card asking “Ifrit beat the crap out of it” or in PvP area taking those heavy (hardcore) players always beating everyone up “Please take them down with one shot”.
    It’s OK to go overboard. However you can only use it once and you don’t know when you can kill the next Ifrit and it doesn’t mean that card will come to you next time. When Ifrit gets summoned somewhere it will change the weather of all zones and you can tell someone summoned Ifrit. I think that be FF like MMORPG. It’s just general talk but we have the structure laid out and system is pretty much set so once the server is made we just need to build it.

    GameWatch - Job Summoner where you can summon spirits will also be implemented?
    YoshiP - We will eventually implement. Pet users are star in MMORPG class. For example carbuncle is a summon a summner can call however “Ifrit” or “Garuda” or “Leviathan” or “Odin” are gods.

    GameWatch - At what point is there a line to decide which is which?
    YoshiP - That’s hard questions since it depends on feeling (laugh) generally something you can call yourself is summon, and those which you can’t call on own are gods.

    GameWatch - How about Shiva or Ramu?
    YoshiP - Those two are also planned as gods. Mainly 4 elements and Light/Dark are confirmed gods.

    GameWatch - You said calling a monster but can you not taim a monster?
    YoshiP - Having pets you can call using MP an those monsters in the area which you can taim; we are preparing both. The design is there so now it’s to work on them, but before that there isn’t much spell users and there isn’t enough cloud control spell so first release jobs then will follow up afterwards.
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    Last edited by LittleStar; 10-19-2011 at 02:02 PM.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleStar View Post
    When Ifrit gets summoned somewhere it will change the weather of all zones and you can tell someone summoned Ifrit. I think that be FF like MMORPG.
    The idea of this is pretty epic. Being across the zone when all of a sudden the sky turns red and embers are leaping all around? /wood

    Also, it sounds like they mean to summon primals from a key item, obtained from the primal fight, at a limit of one being held at a time, Trump Card style.
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  8. #28
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    So, Primal summoning is done by using a rare drop that you get off of the Primals?
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    Sahara Zaad
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    This is what I've taken from reading the interviews:

    There will be two types of summonings in FFXIV. The first one will be exclusive to free companies. These are the one where you can call on the Primals or the "Gods of Eorzea". You may only call on the primal you have beaten as a company. Once you beat it you get a single summoning token. Once you use that summoning token in a "one shot overkill" kind of move, you lose that summoning token. You'll have to beat the Primal again to get another one. I'm lead to believe that the summoning allowances are rare.

    The second kind of summon are for the class Summoners. Summoners cannot summon Primals. Instead they summon the lesser spirits of Eorzea, something along the lines of Carbuncle. For this, I don't know whether it will be implemented as a pet or a one spell casting type of deal.
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    Last edited by Ashaylin; 10-19-2011 at 02:10 PM.

  10. #30
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    Aion Zwei
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    charging for summon....erm...does it the red bar on the new screenshot?? we can only speculate...
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    Aion Zwei - Masamune

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