Mentor Players Kicking newer players from Duty Ques for low DPS

[Pure3ify]

What you should gather from this thread is simple.

This is gold. Okay, so how would you expect a casual player who has 2-3 hours maybe a day to play to find enough time to cater to everyones "time"? I pay my subscription fee not the tank or the healer or the other DPS in the party. I am not even through my 2nd month into the game so yes, im sorry I dont have every gear piece and accesory and character lvl 60 or upgraded to the 3.4 content. Im sorry if that makes your dungeon run last longer. I should have thought about your time before entering the dungeon. This isnt rocket science. Im not dating you. Why make it so complicated? If a dungeon unlocked for me and i met the gear lvl requirements why am i at fault?

[Venoshock]

Lmao 'Ipay my subscription fee....' so does your party members. Their money is worth the same as yours.

Screw it, you attitude is just as ass as the elitists you hate, and if I got someone like you in my party I'd kick you for it lol.

Edit : shite, it picked up the wrong quote, I was replying to OP. Pls no bully.

[Paah]

You probably thought it was another use of the "i'll play how i want its my sub" argument.

Well the did end up using that argument just now..

I pay my subscription fee not the tank or the healer or the other DPS in the party. ... This isnt rocket science. Im not dating you. Why make it so complicated? If a dungeon unlocked for me and i met the gear lvl requirements why am i at fault?

[Sylve]

Well the did end up using that argument just now..

Well... Technically, Shes still not wrong. Everyone paying the sub is on an equal playing field.
If someone doesn't want to help a lesser geared player who was randomly matched to their party, that person could leave the run, rather than the lesser geared player who needs to complete that content.
If people want speedruns, use the party finder, its what its for. Let the DF be used by people willing to help other players.
The problem isn't that she wasn't doing something the rest of the party wanted her to do (AKA contributing no DPS as a healer etc). The case she cited in her OP stated it was low dps that got her kicked. Low dps as a function of lower average ilvl.

I still refuse to accept people kicking others for not being overgeared for the duty they're in. Which is what appears to be have been the case for the OP. What the hell is wrong with taking a few extra minutes to help out a fellow paying customer?

[DPZ2]

Well the did end up using that argument just now..

"I pay my subscription fee. The tank, the healer and the other DPS don't pay it for me"...

There, corrected it for you.

[Brian_]

This is gold. Okay, so how would you expect a casual player who has 2-3 hours maybe a day to play to find enough time to cater to everyones "time"? I pay my subscription fee not the tank or the healer or the other DPS in the party. I am not even through my 2nd month into the game so yes, im sorry I dont have every gear piece and accesory and character lvl 60 or upgraded to the 3.4 content. Im sorry if that makes your dungeon run last longer. I should have thought about your time before entering the dungeon. This isnt rocket science. Im not dating you. Why make it so complicated? If a dungeon unlocked for me and i met the gear lvl requirements why am i at fault?

The only thing that's gold is how aloof and self-entitled you are.

You do realize that they also pay their own subscription fees, right? So again, why do you get to play the way you want to but they don't? Why are you entitled to a respect you aren't giving others?

You're right, this isn't rocket science. If 3 people don't want to carry you, then they don't have to. You don't get to tell 3 other people what to do because you pay a sub or are a new player.

If 3 people do want to carry you, then that's great for you. But, that's a decision they made for themselves. Not one that you can make for them.

[Pure3ify]

The only thing is gold is how aloof and self-entitled you are.

You do realize that they also pay their own subscription fees, right? So again, why do you get to play the way you want to but they don't? Why are you entitled to a respect you aren't giving others?

You're right, this isn't rocket science. If 3 people don't want to carry you, then they don't have to. You don't get to tell 3 other people what to do because you pay a sub or are a new player.

If 3 people do want to carry you, then that's great for you. But, that's a decision they made for themselves. Not one that you can make for them.

So let me get this straight. I play this game for the entitlement of others? I am looked down upon because I only met the min requirements for that specific dungeon or trial? So in the future instead of wanting to play more content with the few hours a day i get i should just get the best of what I can before continuing?

[Brian_]

So let me get this straight. I play this game for the entitlement of others? I am looked down upon because I only met the min requirements for that specific dungeon or trial? So in the future instead of wanting to play more content with the few hours a day i get i should just get the best of what I can before continuing?

I am saying that you need to understand that there are 3 other real-life people in a 4-man group. You are 1/4th of the team and that's all you are. All you've done in this topic is talk about your situation, about how you feel wronged, about what you deserve.

What you should be thinking about is not what you want, but what you all are. In this case, you all want to clear the dungeon.

I play on a JP data center. An apt summary of the difference between NA and JP is that on a NA server, people think about how the group is holding them back. On JP servers, people think about how they're holding the group back.

All you've done this topic is talk about how getting kicked from that group hurt your gaming experience. All you've done is talk about how that group prevented you from doing the story. Where is the self reflection? All I hear are excuses. When people tell you how the 3 other people might've felt, all you've done is dismiss that perspective with ridiculous garbage like "I pay my sub."

I can assure you that if you had done more to be prepared for Sohr Khai, then no one would think about kicking you. You mention the minimums but seriously, if I had a kid and they came home from school with straight Ds and told me it was okay because they met the minimums, I wouldn't throw them a celebration. I would throw them into a jail cell with nothing but a teacher and textbook.

[Pure3ify]

I can assure you that if you had done more to be prepared for Sohr Khai, then no one would think about kicking you. You mention the minimums but seriously, if I had a kid and they came home from school with straight Ds and told me it was okay because they met the minimums, I wouldn't throw them a celebration. I would throw them into a jail cell with nothing but a teacher and textbook.

Im glad you havent left because for 1 I really like your perspective on things but 2 how wrong you are. Stating what did happen to me was wrong. I wasnt overgeared yes. I didnt invest in raising the lvl of other classes for CC yes. But seeing as I wasnt toxic, said hello and stated i was new with knowledge of the mechanics AND meeting the ilevel requirements means i possessed the abilities to clear that instance. No other way around it you cant tell me im wrong. THAT is my issue. Not your parenting advice.

[Brian_]

Im glad you havent left because for 1 I really like your perspective on things but 2 how wrong you are. Stating what did happen to me was wrong. I wasnt overgeared yes. I didnt invest in raising the lvl of other classes for CC yes. But seeing as I wasnt toxic, said hello and stated i was new with knowledge of the mechanics AND meeting the ilevel requirements means i possessed the abilities to clear that instance. No other way around it you cant tell me im wrong. THAT is my issue. Not your parenting advice.

Again, all you mention is your own opinion, your own standards, your own perception of what is okay.

By your standards, you might've been able to clear that dungeon.

By the standards of 3 other people, you weren't helping enough.

But in this entire topic, you haven't given two craps about helping the group more so I don't expect you to start thinking about that now.