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    Quote Originally Posted by Bixillarla View Post
    I rather them not DPS and compelte the duty with no wipes than them try to DPS and mess and cause a wipe which makes the duty longer. Healers should not be doing DPS they should be concentrating on keeping everyone alive.
    Sorry but that what separates a average/good healer from a bad one they can keep the party alive while DPSing and managing OGCD and have no worry that they will cause a wipe, fights in this game are very predictable and once you have ran them a couple of times you know when damage is coming and know when you can DPS freely.

    For example a good healer will use benediction as a normal OGCD to DPS freely without having to switch out of clerics and a bad one will hold it potentially the entire fight/dungeon because they were holding in cause someone messes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    Sorry but that what separates a average/good healer from a bad one they can keep the party alive while DPSing and managing OGCD and have no worry that they will cause a wipe, fights in this game are very predictable and once you have ran them a couple of times you know when damage is coming and know when you can DPS freely.
    If you've ran a fight/dungeon several times, the mechanics are no longer predictable, but are rather known/memorized. This is much different than predicting incoming damage as a healer. Secondly, even if a healer is good at predicting incoming damage, if their tank's actions remain unpredictable not only is it more difficult to synergize with them, it also makes finding windows to DPS harder as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    For example a good healer will use benediction as a normal OGCD to DPS freely without having to switch out of clerics and a bad one will hold it potentially the entire fight/dungeon because they were holding in cause someone messes up.
    This hardly defines a good healer from a bad one. A good healer will know when it's optimal to use it, and when it is best to hold on to it. Using bene to remain in Cleric stance is entirely dependent on the group, particularly the tank. There could be several valid reasons why to hang on to bene such as the example I provided in the above statement, so it's not a simple black and white scenario with this ability. However, the way a healer uses Bene is a good indication of their mentality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    This is much different than predicting incoming damage as a healer. Secondly, even if a healer is good at predicting incoming damage, if their tank's actions remain unpredictable not only is it more difficult to synergize with them, it also makes finding windows to DPS harder as well.

    There could be several valid reasons why to hang on to bene such as the example I provided in the above statement, so it's not a simple black and white scenario with this ability. However, the way a healer uses Bene is a good indication of their mentality.
    Again once your comfortable with healer you can usually figure out the skill level of your tank within a couple minutes of the fight and you still can dps but just a bit less then you would with a good tank unless they literally cant hate. Although I have dps in dungeons and I was pulling hate with holy and its still pretty easy to keep your self alive because enemy's hit for so little damage.

    The only reasonable excuse to hold onto Benediction is your learning a fight and almost positive your going to need to use it otherwise its a waste of your best healing OGCD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    Again once your comfortable with healer you can usually figure out the skill level of your tank within a couple minutes of the fight and you still can dps but just a bit less then you would with a good tank unless they literally cant hate. Although I have dps in dungeons and I was pulling hate with holy and its still pretty easy to keep your self alive because enemy's hit for so little damage.

    The only reasonable excuse to hold onto Benediction is your learning a fight and almost positive your going to need to use it otherwise its a waste of your best healing OGCD.
    My comfort healing in this game is instance-based. It changes from group to group. If a tank Leeroys before I can get buffs up, it is instantly going to put me in an uncomfortable situation, and my DPS will come later. Tanks that wait for buffs, and are patient enough to make sure everyone is on the same page will increase my comfort level greatly. It is with tanks like these that I have noticed my DPS output is so much higher.

    If you're pulling hate with Holy, you probably should stop casting it. You're not doing anybody any favors tanking as a healer. Your heals can't sustain you if too many mobs are on you. The damage isn't as little as you claim. A tank dropped on me just the other day in Pharos Sirius. I have fully augmented IW gear, which is way over-geared for this dungeon. Despite this, each mob was hitting for around 600 damage, and there were 3-4 of them. This translates to 1800-2400 damage every 2-3 seconds. With just a little over 6k HP and weak physical defense, trash mobs will drop a healer quick. That is without mention that your spells will likely all be interrupted.

    As for benediction, the only reason any healer needs to hold on to it is, it is at their discretion to use it. Seriously, that is it. It is indeed very DPS convenient, but it can also save a situation about to turn really bad. Each side of this coin has a just argument to either use/abuse or hold onto bene.
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