Barbershop in 1.2 plz? :D

[JackDaniels]

Sincerely signed,
The arrogant troll as dubbed by someone named Doctor Death lmao.

It'a an understatement IMO

[Althea]

Hmmm. Let me set a couple of things straight here.

1) I'm not asking them to completely stop what they're doing to add this in. It's not one guy working on it, it's a team. You also don't have an entire team programming one single thing at a time. They multitask.
2) This has been said as a "planned" feature for a fair amount of time. I've heard it since I bought the game the first day. I looked at the timeline, 2.0 notes, I didn't actually find a barbershop snippet (unless I missed it, in which I apologize). Unless you mean the free character re-customize we get when they release the new races. If that's what you're referring to, this is different.

I'm not particularly sure why this became a shouting match. Square's taken pride in their relations with their customers, and in hearing about what they want. And this is something we'd like to see in game. It doesn't inconvenience you in the slightest, if it's a feature you're not interested in .. don't use it.

It'd take very little development time. They're adding in new features between now and 2.0, so why would this be any different?

Calling me ignorant just makes you moreso. I've been scripting and programming for roughly 8 years across different engines and languages. I like to think I know a little more about how a game operates than just some random person flaming my thread without any supporting reasons, other than just to troll.

[Zion_Cross]

Hmmm. Let me set a couple of things straight here.

1) I'm not asking them to completely stop what they're doing to add this in. It's not one guy working on it, it's a team. You also don't have an entire team programming one single thing at a time. They multitask.
2) This has been said as a "planned" feature for a fair amount of time. I've heard it since I bought the game the first day. I looked at the timeline, 2.0 notes, I didn't actually find a barbershop snippet (unless I missed it, in which I apologize). Unless you mean the free character re-customize we get when they release the new races. If that's what you're referring to, this is different.

I'm not particularly sure why this became a shouting match. Square's taken pride in their relations with their customers, and in hearing about what they want. And this is something we'd like to see in game. It doesn't inconvenience you in the slightest, if it's a feature you're not interested in .. don't use it.

It'd take very little development time. They're adding in new features between now and 2.0, so why would this be any different?

Calling me ignorant just makes you moreso. I've been scripting and programming for roughly 8 years across different engines and languages. I like to think I know a little more about how a game operates than just some random person flaming my thread without any supporting reasons, other than just to troll.

Like I mentioned in my past post, why would they go out of their way to implement a code now, on an outdated and very different engine from the one they are developing. They aren't gonna waste time implementing something on an engine that's gonna be scrapped. Hence why they are adding the delivery system and other strong features only on the new engine (2.0) and not this one.

For the barber snippet it's discussed here in a Yoshi translation thread.

[Althea]

Like I mentioned in my past post, why would they go out of their way to implement a code now, on an outdated and very different engine from the one they are developing. They aren't gonna waste time implementing something on an engine that's gonna be scrapped. Hence why they are adding the delivery system and other strong features only on the new engine (2.0) and not this one.

For the barber snippet it's discussed here in a Yoshi translation thread.

Ah okay. It was in the forums. I was reading on their 2.0 announcement page.

And they are adding some stuff between now and their new engine. It will just have to get ported over. Same with everything else they will add from now till then, and have added previously.

I'm mostly just asking for this to get moved in priority. From 2.0+, to 1.2. It'd just have to get ported, instead of made with the new engine. Which, even still would probably still be just a copy/paste aside from the UI they'd have to make for it. Something to sorta sate us, until then? It's just been a year of staring at the same character now. Wouldn't mind a slight change.

[Zion_Cross]

If you think about it, it's a step back. Having to port over a code from one engine to another, it ain't easy. Yes they have a team, but they could be using all those resources into having it ready for the 2.0 engine. I wouldn't mind having a barber shop now don't get me wrong. However it's only natural for them to move forward with the code on the new engine, rather than rework the code - to then port.

[Choyi]

It was stated we would have the option to recustomize our characters (even sex change and race change) at the launch of 2.0, so if anything I think we could expect an in game feature implement close after that.

Personaly I don't think a barber shop feature should be on any priority, do people realy need to change their charaters hairstyle every 5minutes?
I spent hours creating my character when I started and I'm very happy with how he looks and don't feel any reason to change anything as it is now (will see what options 2.0 brings however so then it will be a whole different story).

[Althea]

If you think about it, it's a step back. Having to port over a code from one engine to another, it ain't easy. Yes they have a team, but they could be using all those resources into having it ready for the 2.0 engine. I wouldn't mind having a barber shop now don't get me wrong. However it's only natural for them to move forward with the code on the new engine, rather than rework the code - to then port.

You're right. It would be a little extra work on their part having to port it over again. But I feel like, for the customers, the fairly small effort on their part would be a fairly big addition for us, while we wait for 2.0.

Idk, just how I feel.

[AlexNiculaie]

Not going to happen, certainly not a month before 1.20 drops. Just ridiculous to think they would do that. If they were to do this before going to the new servers, and that's a big if, it would be 1.21 at the earliest. I doubt they will be putting too much effort into non content related items on the old system, though.

[RemVye]

Oh dear Lord! When did I ever say that it was easy to implement a barber at 1.20 or before 2.0? Did you even read what I said? Actually, I agree with you that it might not be easy to implement a barber before 2.0, but that is not the point. My point is that your method of communication was very disrespectful towards the TC. Instead of name calling, you should have simply explained to him/her how she/her was wrong. If you are really using logic, you would have understood that calling people by negative names is the not the best to get your message across. We are not in preschool anymore. Please address your thoughts in a more civilized manner.

Blah blah blah, I semi-read this. My original comment of being ignorant (for which you called me an arrogant troll) was directed at the OP who said... dun dun dun and I quote ... "It would be super easy on squares side".

I'm not saying having a barbershop is wrong, the idea is good. I'd like to have extra things like this. But it is simply ignorance (DEFINITION: Lack of knowledge or information) to think this is easy to implement and that they would put it into the next patch.

They aren't wrong for wanting a barbershop, but again... ignorant for thinking SE is going to drop whatever they have assigned to developers, add this new thing to the list, work out the details, add a UI, link up character data, and whatever else needs to be done in time for 1.20.

And... if you take all of the work into account, and still think they would do it.. FOR 1.20.... then you are stupid (DEFINTION: Lacking intelligence or common sense.)


So... there is no arrogance here, I'm not better than anyone, the idea of a barbershop itself is good.. but the belief that SE is going to implement this into 1.20 and that the work for it is "easy" is stupidity or ignorance. Pick your poison.

I wish you looked up the definition of the words before accusing me name calling and using pre-school antics. (Definitions) (Please check it.)

Not going to happen, certainly not a month before 1.20 drops. Just ridiculous to think they would do that. If they were to do this before going to the new servers, and that's a big if, it would be 1.21 at the earliest. I doubt they will be putting too much effort into non content related items on the old system, though.

ROFL the guy right above me said the same thing I did.... he must be an arrogant troll too!!

It's been stated that the "barbershop" is coming in 2.0. Someone creates an illusion that it should come out in 1.20. People argue about the illusion someone created. It's a sad world.

Why would they implement a system, that would alter the server code of each character, to then debug it... if they're gonna change the engine in the end? They aren't gonna waste time and the developers efforts for somethings that's just gonna be deleted in the end.


Not hating on the thread, just stating some facts.

[RemVye]

It'a an understatement IMO

Good for you. I could careless what you think. I'm not being arrogant and only stating facts as I see them. Check my above post for additional details.

I'm done with you and doctor death trolling me. You two can have fun with each other. This thread is over. /thread