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  1. #61
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    Roth_Trailfinder's Avatar
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Midgardsormr
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    Not reading this whole thread, but ..

    My take on "Need" is that the option is there for people for whom the piece represents an IMMEDIATE upgrade. As in, they will equip it as soon as they win it (or as soon as combat permits). Not selling for Seals, not grabbing for an alt job, but an immediate, "I'm going to equip this now because it is better than what I have on" upgrade.

    As such, I tend to roll Greed - which I take to be the "it is not an immediate upgrade, but I WANT it for some other reason : alt job, GC Seals, Glamour, Desynthesis, whatever other reason I may want it for.

    However, if I see that someone has better gear than what they rolled NEED on, I don't call them out on it, I just start rolling NEED on anything and everything I can that drops in the dungeon from that moment on.

    That's my take on the Need, Greed, Pass system. Its a holdover from the old "CAWU" definition on what constitutes a need : Can And Will Use. Use meant Equip when it came to gear, or if it was not gear, Craft With for crafting materials. At the time, there was insufficient overlap between the two (IE - gear that was used in crafting) that the few times where there was overlap were easily enough sorted out, usually by the crafting material wanting person passing until the next drop to the person for whom the gear represented an immediate upgrade.
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  2. #62
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    Nixx Delumi
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    I think the courteous thing to do is ensure that you are not taking the items from people who would use the item in and of itself when you could find other sources for seals. In any case, your best bet is probably just to communicate your intent with your group, which will give other people a chance to let you know what they're after and as best as possible make sure everyone walks away happy. I have never been a fan of the idea that just because you can need something means you're invariably justified in doing so and I think it generally leads to a more frustrating experience for many people.
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  3. #63
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    Siolenas Darkleaf
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    I roll for what I need. I need gear to turn into points for chocobo respecs. There is no easy to to get that many seals.
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    I don't think so. If someone wants it for a reason, they can ask for it.
    and even then you're not obligated. Use your own discretion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aniond View Post
    I roll for what I need. I need gear to turn into points for chocobo respecs. There is no easy to to get that many seals.
    Wait, do you mean the peppers that cost 48000 gc seals yet only cost 20 allied seals? lol...you should definitely not be buying those with company seals. You're welcome.
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  5. #65
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    Urthdigger's Avatar
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aniond View Post
    I roll for what I need. I need gear to turn into points for chocobo respecs. There is no easy to to get that many seals.
    ...why the heck do you need to respec your chocobo?
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  6. #66
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    Luna Faye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    ...why the heck do you need to respec your chocobo?
    achievement for the different armor sets it gets as a pure healer/tank/dps if that still applies
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  7. #67
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    Eyriwaen Zirhmusyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    achievement for the different armor sets it gets as a pure healer/tank/dps if that still applies
    Last I heard, you can't get that via respec. Your chocobo needs to be be a high enough rank to level both of them to 10 for your second, and rank 20 for your third.
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    Last I heard, you can't get that via respec. Your chocobo needs to be be a high enough rank to level both of them to 10 for your second, and rank 20 for your third.
    You're correct. As your chocobo achieves the max rank in a particular spec, you'll get the spec-specific barding. At rank 20 you'll have all three.

    Also lol spending 48k seals on reagen peppers... they cost like 20 or 30 allied seals.
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  9. #69
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    If you're needing specific alt job gear say so. Most players if they don't need it themselves will accomodate.

    Example: Just today ran an expert with the tank who requested that if the MNK chest dropped he would like to have it. SCH, BRD, and BLM in the group had no objections and while MNK gear (fist, feet) dropped from each chest he greeded them.

    MNK Chest dropped on final boss and he got it.
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    Stormbad Worldfire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Wow really everyone?!? If you came on a job that can need, do it. It is NOT your responsibility to gear out other people's alts. If they want it so bad, they can go on the job they need it for.
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