Dungeon loot etiquette for Anima weapon grind.

[Urthdigger]

Just ask nicely. You'll find not only will a lot of people be fine with you Needing gear, but they may even pass on the gear that you greed on. Most players aren't especially thirsty for GC seals.

[Kathryn]

To be fair one thing that Blizz did with WoW would help with this issue and that's personal loot, no one can cry you rolled need on an item then as they get their own items and you get yours everyones happy.

The thing that annoyed me greatly was the job i was playing when i returned to game was the one i did the instances with and a higher ilvl job of simular nature would join and roll need/win everything this is where i think Blizz have got it right with personal loot because then there's none of this fustration.

[Holy-chan]

To be fair one thing that Blizz did with WoW would help with this issue and that's personal loot, no one can cry you rolled need on an item then as they get their own items and you get yours everyones happy.

The thing that annoyed me greatly was the job i was playing when i returned to game was the one i did the instances with and a higher ilvl job of simular nature would join and roll need/win everything this is where i think Blizz have got it right with personal loot because then there's none of this fustration.

Many MMORPGs do this nowadays. I personally played Champions Online (no one knows this game, alas) which has a mixture of both player-specific drops and the occasional Need/Greed/Pass system in some instances, and Phantasy Star Online 2,which only has personal loot. It's a wonder why FF14 doesn't. Okay, so it does, with some Triple Triad cards, a good chunk of Aquapolis drops and some other stuff that go directly in one's inventory, but...

[Nihility]

My feeling on dungeon gear need/greed is no one should ever have a problem if you just greed everything.
and if you feel like needing on gear just because you can, it's pretty much reached epidemic level and you will always have at least one person in every dungeon run doing it so mine as well do it yourself to protect your interests. Dungeon gear is pretty much worthless outside of GC seals and glamour anyways

if your doing zurvan or something that actually can drop relevant items, by all means try to open a dialogue ahead of time. Most people will respect each others needs in groups that requires everyones cooperation

[Callinon]

I always say if you actually need x y or z gear for glamour or whatever reason, come on that job. My needing it for seals or desynth is just as legit imo.

Didn't say it wasn't legit. Said I thought it was rude.

[AnimaAnimus]

Didn't say it wasn't legit. Said I thought it was rude.

if you need it so badly you should have come on your healer.

This game throws gear at you pre-60, there is really little excuse not to be at least relatively decently geared for your level unless you potd or fate your way up, but that's what the marketboard and vendors are for. It's not the best gear but it will help you get there.

[Callinon]

This game throws gear at you pre-60, there is really little excuse not to be at least relatively decently geared for your level unless you potd or fate your way up, but that's what the marketboard and vendors are for. It's not the best gear but it will help you get there.

It wouldn't be that big a deal if I didn't have to devote every single Lore tomestone I got to my anima weapon from now until apparently the end of time (I'm waiting to fill this second bar up on my umbrite step only for a third bar to appear under it). I just miss the days when people weren't the absolute greediest.

I get it, you need seals. I need seals too. I'm working on my goldsmithing desynth too. I just think it's scummy to roll Need on gear you aren't going to wear. I understand I'm in something of a minority at least in this thread, but that won't stop me from thinking that's a scummy thing to do.

[Jeycht]

Desynth, glam, GC seal, gearing up, there is many reasons to greed/need on ANY item.
One isn't more important than the other.
There is a lot of way to gear up and have seal. Not to have glam a particular thing or desynth (sorta, or cost way to much for basically nothing in return)

I usually greed on everything but if someone tell me in chat "Hey can I have that one? for my job x" I always pass.

[Feidam]

My thought would be to add a condition on the roll behind the scene. I.E. something like you can only need if it is an upgrade you can equip otherwise it's pass or greed. They already do it with tank gear that dragoons can technically wear but can only greed on. This way there is no confusion on anyone's part and takes some of the sting out of streaky rng for types of gear that drop, such as runs that drop all monk gear or caster gear.

[Azper]

As someone who burns through GC seals a lot for Dark Matter for equipment repairs, I try to snag as much loot as I can.

If someone speaks up and says they're after a particular set, I'm happy to pass on it, otherwise I need/greed on anything and everything.