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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    Reason i believe it will be two new dps is cuz it would be easier to balance them alongside also adding combat system changes. I can appreciate believing class balance in MMOs happens "naturally", but i am pretty sure there is nothing natural about it and it requires just as much attention as any other aspect of the game. (hell even now there are classes that are a bit off the mark even with tweaks in a patch by patch basis)
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumbercules View Post
    Reason i believe it will be two new dps is cuz it would be easier to balance them alongside also adding combat system changes. I can appreciate believing class balance in MMOs happens "naturally", but i am pretty sure there is nothing natural about it and it requires just as much attention as any other aspect of the game. (hell even now there are classes that are a bit off the mark even with tweaks in a patch by patch basis)
    Definitely agree with this, dont get me wrong career tanks and healers deserve something nice and engaging as well, its just that it seems within the confines of this system that its really hard to make an especially unique tank or healer at this point. The system change might alleviate some issues with identity, or bring some uniformity into the mix, but I'm not certain that that will be enough to warrant a new job in those roles. They could, though and probably will surprise me however
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 02-06-2017 at 03:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    Definitely agree with this, dont get me wrong career tanks and healers deserve something nice and engaging as well, its just that it seems within the confines of this system that its really hard to make an especially unique tank or healer at this point.
    You act like the DPS they've added to the game haven't just been rehashes of what we have already. NIN is a melee DPS with positionals except with the mudra system tacked on. MCH is incredibly similar to BRD as well just with a more complex rotation. To say that new tanks and healers can't have or are harder to design unique mechanics while DPS can is a joke, especially since pretty much any mechanic you can create for a DPS can be used on a tank as well barring things that are impossible or detrimental for tanks to do, such as making themselves take more damage, or positionals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    You act like the DPS they've added to the game haven't just been rehashes of what we have already. NIN is a melee DPS with positionals except with the mudra system tacked on. MCH is incredibly similar to BRD as well just with a more complex rotation. To say that new tanks and healers can't have or are harder to design unique mechanics while DPS can is a joke, especially since pretty much any mechanic you can create for a DPS can be used on a tank as well barring things that are impossible or detrimental for tanks to do, such as making themselves take more damage, or positionals.
    Oh it only seems like i was saying that, but I'm not. My opinion of the "new" jobs from HW is pretty splayed out all over the forums here, but ok let me give you an example: What is the typical response when we state what the next tank or healer is going to be like?
    Its always "its gotta compete with warriors slot, or scholar needs competition" DPS? "we need a sword dps job"
    Albeit getting a "gun dps job" ended up being what it was, it definitely didnt have to be how SE made it
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 02-06-2017 at 04:05 AM.