Premade groups vs randoms, change to premade vs premade.

[Ama_Hamada]

This is completely unfair to have premade groups vs random people and just walk over them. I just got out of a seize where several people had 20+ assists, double digit kills.

This team only got 172 points form holding nodes wher the other 2 teams got over 800. They got 708 points ooff kills and only lost 80 points from being killed.

Premades are fine, if they fight over premades, this is a ridiculous slaughter.

Also I do not see the fun over curb stomping people over and over again.

But I got something out of it, not dying to 5 magic lbs at once despite attempts to CC me. yeah I know what pvp commands are

[Maddonious]

Im not worried about premades as much as broken class balance. Its odd cause for the past 2 weeks i've been trying to make a premade to no avail. I guess they only exsist to kill me and not help me.

Premades have always had the edge but ASTs abuse is what makes them incredibly hard to stop. SE needs to nerf those freaking insta shield again somehow cause its rediculous when a premade has a BHs drg or smn and even with 10 people on him you cant break past both ASTs insta shielding him. Also those balace cards are breaking the balance of pvp in general. SE needs to get off their asses and fix pvp before adding in new feast maps and stuff.

[Korihu]

with 10 people on him you cant break past both ASTs insta shielding him.

I think those 10 people need to re-evaluate their play...

[Llus]

I think those 10 people need to re-evaluate their play...

absolutely need to re-evaluate, bursting an ast is just as easy as bursting a whm or sch - tell your group to take stun off their hotbars until they know how to use it properly

[TiaHariberux3]

I think those 10 people need to re-evaluate their play...

True story

[MiraKershaw]

Would do more harm than good honestly for both experienced and inexperienced pvpers, queues would be worse because friends can't queue together. Honestly premades arnt always unstoppable lol I've seen plenty of times premades failing or even getting third place. I've seen a full 24 cactuar premade fail to pubs

[Maxwell]

I understand the frustration, but the biggest issue is how would you define premades within a team of 24 ? 2-man, 4-man, 7,8,11, 17 ? There is no fixed number of people queing together that will create the steam roller effect. The only possible solution would be to allow only solo queue in frontlines and leave team queues in the feast. Even then, you would not be garenteed anything.

[Cleanse]

I do not think worsening the queues by separating the pugs from premades is a great solution. This is an MMO and people _should_ be grouping together with friends.

Maybe make it so that you can only queue into Frontline roulette while in a premade. This will give a higher chance of matching into the same game as other premades.

[Magic-Mal]

I do not think worsening the queues by separating the pugs from premades is a great solution. This is an MMO and people _should_ be grouping together with friends.

Maybe make it so that you can only queue into Frontline roulette while in a premade. This will give a higher chance of matching into the same game as other premades.

Um.. That would absolutely destroy ALL queues. Not everyone has 7 people to just group with at any given moment.

Getting rid of premades is the only solution because a bunch of random people who may or may not talk 9 times out of 10 cannot go up against a full team of coordinated individuals in battle. There is nothing fair about it.

[KusoWat]

One of the more dominant premades don't use comms, just queue together and wing it.