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  1. #11
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    Xyno's Avatar
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    Onyx' Xyno
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Miyha View Post
    Hmmm, what was that?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZnMUtocBos

    Perhaps the sound of you being laughed off the forums? :'>

    EDIT: Ooooh, it's YOU again! Why are you still here. ;-;
    Good, but not enough. Why? The party didnt die on the last AoE only because of the tank LB, so, your example is almost 0

    Also the fight was too short because of the 5 dd
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    Last edited by Xyno; 02-05-2017 at 06:05 PM.

  2. #12
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    Merida Quigg
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyno View Post
    3.4+ content much easier than previous, so I almost can agree, that Scholar can be replaced there. But in common- not
    The groups I see are AST then SCH/WHM, the bonus damage from AST is what people are looking for. Most groups are looking for speed kills and AST brings that to the table. Damage put out by SCH doesn't eclipse the groups buff from cards.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeridaQ View Post
    The groups I see are AST then SCH/WHM, the bonus damage from AST is what people are looking for. Most groups are looking for speed kills and AST brings that to the table. Damage put out by SCH doesn't eclipse the groups buff from cards.
    The DPS bonus of the ASTRO- is a random. You can get the card and can not get. But SCH himself make a lot of DPS
    So, ASTRO- weak DPS and a random card. SCH- strong stable DPS and easy shielding
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  4. #14
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    Li'a Mimerya
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    Odin
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    That's it. OP has either no idea what he's talking about or he's a troll.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accelerating View Post
    That's it. OP has either no idea what he's talking about or he's a troll.
    Very "smart" and popular point of view. Please, continue
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    Last edited by Xyno; 02-05-2017 at 06:40 PM.

  6. #16
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMERC View Post
    The problem here is less that current-AST can't compete with SCH and more that AST so greatly outpaces WHM in what it brings to a group that the ideal composition involves bringing the best of both worlds.
    This. AST is just so much better than WHM in every single way that they'd rather just get rid of the WHM and bring AST and SCH instead.
    And SE seems to have no idea what to do about this either. They seemed to think buffing balance to ridiculous heights was somehow going to fix things...
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  7. #17
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xyno View Post
    Any NOT TOTALLY overgeared party need to have Scholar or will be deaths
    Uhm what?

    The only real points of trouble I remember were A6S pre Nerf and A8S. But it was doable (we did finish Midas Savage pre 3.4 with Noct AST).

    In Creator Savage I clearly see they have build the fights with Noct AST in mind. The only exception is the last phase of A12S, where the SCH can shine a little bit better.

    Yes. The changes they made to the AST did not adress the issues Noct AST had in Midas Savage. And increasing the the time between heavy raidwide damage events is also just a workaround and no solution.

    But you don't need a SCH and also no massive overgear to survive the content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xyno View Post
    Good, but not enough. Why? The party didnt die on the last AoE only because of the tank LB, so, your example is almost 0
    You really should not talk about stuff you don't know how it works.

    Look my video. Its from november, 28. No tank LB. Surprise: We did not die.

    Tank LB just makes it more failsafe and you need only 3 ppl for the stack mark (regular you need 4).
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    Last edited by KarstenS; 02-05-2017 at 07:09 PM.

    Videos mit der Hauptgeschichte und ausgewählten Nebenquestreihen (deutsch): https://www.youtube.com/user/KSVideo100

  8. #18
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    Elthia Felice
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 80
    oh hey its this guy and his bullcrap again
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  9. #19
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    Hiro Azumi
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    Lich
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    Quote Originally Posted by Accelerating View Post
    That's it. OP has either no idea what he's talking about or he's a troll.
    2 minute search using lodestone and the "other" sites and you'll realise quickly you're first point is right, seems to post alot on endgame and classes, 0 healers leveled (picking up a 30 ast doesn't count) and only recently picked up the Alex story achievements with no data to back up savage, opinions are fine but I wouldn't bother calling him out on it as you can see from his response below yours ^^

    On a side note as also a monk main OP and considering you have made a few threads on monk, I died a little inside when I saw your current monk build q.q
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  10. #20
    Player Rennies's Avatar
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    Keisero Starborn
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry View Post
    They seemed to think buffing balance to ridiculous heights was somehow going to fix things...
    I'm sorry, but it has been painfully obvious since the patch notes of 3.4 that they do not care about "fixing" healer balance, they simply wanted Ast to be a popular job in its own expansion. They did it by purposely making Ast have an overloaded kit compared to whm. The only way they can fix Ast is by making more than 3 of the cards desirable and consistifying the benefits of their usage. This 20% balance card is unlikely to stay, but bole is very likely to stay, considering the fact that you still might not even want to use it.
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