Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[randysquirrel]

Why thunder before b4? doesn't seem to make any difference. My next enoch cycle is 2-3 seconds shorter, but this is then offset by me doing the same thing next time, so it doesn't seem to matter. If I have a t3 proc, it comes down to the following:
if my existing dot has already fallen off > use before b4
if im about to lose the proc if I wait > use before b4
otherwise, use after b4 (just to get one extra tick off my existing dot, not much, but every little helps)

it has to be an almost instantaneous mana tick, but the rare occasion I do get one, I forego reapplying thunder, and get back to AF asap

I don't rly understand what you mean when you say I should use an oGCD under a f3 proc - I agree with you, but I'm already doing this wherever possible.

[HaroldSaxon]

Why thunder before b4? doesn't seem to make any difference. My next enoch cycle is 2-3 seconds shorter, but this is then offset by me doing the same thing next time, so it doesn't seem to matter. If I have a t3 proc, it comes down to the following:
if my existing dot has already fallen off > use before b4
if im about to lose the proc if I wait > use before b4
otherwise, use after b4 (just to get one extra tick off my existing dot, not much, but every little helps)

it has to be an almost instantaneous mana tick, but the rare occasion I do get one, I forego reapplying thunder, and get back to AF asap

I don't rly understand what you mean when you say I should use an oGCD under a f3 proc - I agree with you, but I'm already doing this wherever possible.

Because if you have time for Thunder before B4, it gives you more time during your next enochian cycle allowing you to use extra procs. Skipping out on thunder just because you got a quick mana tick is a dps gain only if you:

a) Don't get any thundercloud procs

AND

b) Do not have to move.

As soon as you get 1 proc, its a DPS gain. If you have to move and can pair it up with the proc, its an even bigger gain.

Regarding holding off on thunder - its only acceptable to do so if you have recently had a thundercloud proc (i.e. two ticks hasn't gone off). If you have recently applied thunder 1, you can reapply thundercloud straight after B4 and it will be a gain (although there's some RNG scenario's - if you get another proc quickly, then you can use it, or you can risk not getting another proc and saving it in order to get more ticks off. I prefer the first one).

Regarding the F1=3 proc - you can do this now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlAZjPtG94k

So you use the F3 proc straight after getting it.