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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Good luck with doing lv60 content with ilevel 30 gear

    ilevel have nothing to do with character level. it only say how good the base stats of the gear are
    Huh?

    The ilvl numbers are arbitrary. They could label the power level of the items however they wanted. And I find it both confusing and somewhat amusing that in your first sentence you claim a connection between level and ilvl, then in your next sentence you say there's no connection... quite contradictory.

    They could label item power with whatever the hell they feel like. But eventually the system they are using now will end up with large numbers that are unwieldy. Thus they will likely do something like drop a digit and round or divide by some other number to consolidate and "reset" them.

    Character level and ilvl already don't match after level 50. So it doesn't matter what they end up labeling item power as long as they keep the system reasonable. But as I said, we have have a long ways to go before they even have to think about re-labeling ilvl. At least until 6.0 or even 7.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Huh?

    The ilvl numbers are arbitrary. They could label the power level of the items however they wanted. And I find it both confusing and somewhat amusing that in your first sentence you claim a connection between level and ilvl, then in your next sentence you say there's no connection... quite contradictory.
    A ilevel 32 MNK weapon have str 7. Do you think that is enough for Void Arc, Alexander and the triads without nerfing them to the ground?
    Because that is what i mean with "Good luck with doing lv60 content with ilevel 30 gear"

    Of course the devs can label it how they want it, and they labeled it item level, like "level of the item"
    They can hide the label so nobody will see it and nobody will argue about it, even if the stats still increase at the same speed each patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    A ilevel 32 MNK weapon have str 7. Do you think that is enough for Void Arc, Alexander and the triads without nerfing them to the ground?
    Because that is what i mean with "Good luck with doing lv60 content with ilevel 30 gear"

    Of course the devs can label it how they want it, and they labeled it item level, like "level of the item"
    They can hide the label so nobody will see it and nobody will argue about it, even if the stats still increase at the same speed each patch.
    *sigh*

    Okay, let me work this through with you step by step, since you're not quite getting it. Let's start with if they dropped a digit (divide by factor of 10):

    Current 270 ilvl gear would then be ilvl 27. Same stats. Same power. Just a different label. By comparison, current 20-30 ilvl gear would then be ilvl 2-3. Same stats, same power.

    Now, let's say they reduced by a factor of 3 instead of 10:

    Current 270 ilvl gear would then be ilvl 90. Current ilvl 90 gear would then be ilvl 30.

    Do you get it now? It would just be a re-labeling to keep numbers from getting unwieldy. Though they won't have to do it for at least another two expansions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    *sigh*

    Okay, let me work this through with you step by step, since you're not quite getting it. Let's start with if they dropped a digit (divide by factor of 10):

    Current 270 ilvl gear would then be ilvl 27. Same stats. Same power. Just a different label. By comparison, current 20-30 ilvl gear would then be ilvl 2-3. Same stats, same power.
    then why not just hide it? Would be better than 3 different base stats on the same ilevel (new ilevel 3, that would be old ilevel 31-39)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    then why not just hide it? Would be better than 3 different base stats on the same ilevel (new ilevel 3, that would be old ilevel 31-39)

    Because their system with the Dungeon Finder has ilvl requirements. So ilvl has to be visible.

    But where are you getting that there would be 3 different base stats? There would only be the base stats of the item, which wouldn't change (+7 str gear would always remain +7 str gear) and the ilvl. It wouldn't display the old ilvl if and when they "reset" the ilvl counter. It would only display the new ilvl.
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