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    Here is a PVE example. The developers add Zurvan "Ultimate" - a fight that can only be queued solo or in a full party in the Duty Finder (no in-betweens), and has a few interesting gimmicks to it:

    -Mechanics are random, meaning that players cannot simply memorize a script and perform adequately at the fight.

    -Rewards are only given to players who can consistently clear the fight solo approximately 50% of the time, and 70% of the time in a full party.

    -You are only given one chance to clear the fight per attempt. A wipe counts as a failed run and hurts your overall clear percentage.

    -Zurvan has a programmed "smart" AI that will constantly ignore tank aggro and deliberately target the lowest HP person in range so long as they fall below a certain percentage of HP. To compensate for this, his overall damage is not insanely high.

    -However, he will have constant adds that will spawn and respawn throughout the fight. These adds will heal him, perform repeated CCs on you, and will also target anyone whose HP falls below a certain percentage, requiring healers to be on point. The adds can be CC'd, as can Zurvan, but after 3 successful applications of the same CC he and they will become immune for the next 60 seconds, requiring players to use their immobilization abilities intelligently.

    -He will be able to use his ultimate more than one time per fight.

    -Any player can queue into this mode, regardless of their experience. Square can provide a sort of "Stone, Sky, Sea" for this fight only that does not affect a players' attempts-to-clears ratio, but it will give no rewards; it is purely for practice only. However, there is no requirement that players use this SSS. The game will try to match players with higher clears with one another, but if suitable candidates are not found, will throw players of any experience and skill level into a Zurvan Ultimate with one another.

    -Due to excessive harassment reports from unprepared players being reamed out for ruining the "ranking" of higher-tier players, Square has now opted to disable text chat for this mode. Guess how many people will be willing to queue the solo version in Duty Finder now?



    ...That is basically what is going on with Feast right now. I'm sure I'm opening myself up to tons of nitpicking here on how my example isn't 100% accurate, but know that I'm trying to frame this in a reference that primarily PVE players can understand. I'm certainly not opposed to a different method of dealing with egregious harassment in PVP games, but completely removing any strategical integrity from the game is NOT the solution.
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    I was playing as arcanist in Dun Scaith and someone told me to leave and put on my job stone! How dare they tell me how to play when I pay for my subscription!11!!1!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greystone View Post
    I was playing as arcanist in Dun Scaith and someone told me to leave and put on my job stone! How dare they tell me how to play when I pay for my subscription!11!!1!!!
    Not quite sure what trolling a dungeon has to do with this
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Not quite sure what trolling a dungeon has to do with this
    Guess I should have put a /s at the end :^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterLucie View Post
    No game mode which requires coordination and communication should ever have its primary method of them muted. Period. End of story.
    Coming back to this, I can't think of a singular other game where there's team-based competitive gameplay and you are unable to communicate with your party members using an in-game service (ie, no outside VOIP programs). Does anyone actually have examples of a company that has done this, and how well it worked out for them?
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    Yeah that'll... uh help I hope this is a joke/parody on something.
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