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  1. #21
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    there no party distribution at all, it would be good to have one.
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  2. #22
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    Synestra's Avatar
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    I see so often in Shatter. Healers either sitting at base or running around gathering small crystals while everyone is getting killed.
    I have also seen this alot recently and yesterday i had rather hilarious moment when there was enemy WHM and BRD and i was alone against them, that poor bard didnt get single heal nor regen because that WHM was too busy spamming stone III. I bet that BRD cursed that healer to deepest hell as he literally died next to that him >_<
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  3. #23
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    BorisDaBlade's Avatar
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    Boris Taglia
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 80
    This is what you get when the healer meta in pve is that you're a terrible if you're not dpsing.
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  4. #24
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    Chocolys's Avatar
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    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    As a pug WHM healer in Shatter, ultimately I would remain with my party, but in 95% of the time the party gets scattered to the four winds, so I just end up going where most of the fight is, most often around the central area and those big ice thingies.

    And then I mostly use various heal/buff, and cast heavy and sleep spells for most of the time.

    As for weird player behaviour, it's not just healers.

    For once last day I was in game, in the center close to the entrance of the path that leads to our base and my party members nearby. The game was just a few minutes in. I got stunned and an enemy party rushed to me, I used all my cooldown including attunement and meanwhile my party member just near me did nothing, they were not even fighting, they were just like "oh we don't care " the whole time. Afterward that did not put me in a good mood for healing them (and I was the only healer for the party).
    But I'm not like that, so I just forgot it and did my usual.

    The very next game after that, I got a bit too isolated on the front while my alliance was retreating, so that is usually not a good thing to do as a healer . And then again I got rushed by an enemy group, and again did all I could to survive as long as possible, but this time there was another party from my alliance a little away and they rushed to me and I managed to survive thanks to them.

    So really it's all random about the kind of player you end up with regardless of class.
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    Last edited by Chocolys; 02-04-2017 at 03:14 AM.

  5. #25
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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by BorisDaBlade View Post
    This is what you get when the healer meta in pve is that you're a terrible if you're not dpsing.
    I dislike the healer DPS meta in PVE as much as the next guy, but even I think this is reaching a bit. Unless you're deliberately being facetious, in which case I apologize for not getting the joke.

    I think a lot of what people are seeing is a lack of inter-alliance cross-healing, so to speak. The cases that people are listing, where players are dying left and right and a WHM is just DPSing ice...I'd imagine a good portion of the dying people aren't in their party, and since the general lackadaisical attitude towards alliance content is "I take care of my own party and everyone else can bugger off", players in PVP aren't getting cross-alliance healed like they should be. (I'm always cross-alliance healing unless I'm super tapped out on resources or my own team is being pushed too hard for me to spare a second.)
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  6. #26
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    Chocolys's Avatar
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    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    ..
    I do cross-alliance healing as much as I can as healer. It's harder however because aoe like healing spell don't work, so you have to use the alliance tab to select them or manually click on them directly if you can manage that in the mess xD

    One thing that happens many times, is i'm always saving people left and right, so swiftcast, benediction or tetragrammation are often on cooldown, that means for the rest I have to use regular healing skill without moving once casting, and many players when low HP just simply go out of range before the spell finish and then die. So if you're low HP and want some heal, stop rushing forward away from your healers
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  7. #27
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    Synestra's Avatar
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Tbh all alliance members should count as party member because it sucks that i cant use support skills like Cover, Testudo, Thrill of War etc for them.
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  8. #28
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 96
    I hate it when the party splits off into two, and I heal one group, and I hope that the other healer is healing the other group, but when I look I see them casting dps spells while the party members are dropping like flies :< We lose pts when people die.
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  9. #29
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    randysquirrel's Avatar
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    Phoenix Silver
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    Odin
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    Alchemist Lv 60
    A few times I've queued in and been solo heal. I always say pls stay together obv I can only heal if people are in range... then everyone just scatters off in all directions anyway, and quickly die with no heals

    seems like everyone wants to be that hero that went off on their own and brought down a big ice solo because the 71 other people werent rdy
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  10. #30
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    Chocolys's Avatar
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    Cait Zilla
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    I hate it when the party splits off into two.....
    I'm already "happy" if half the party remains together, because that's not common enough

    Quote Originally Posted by randysquirrel View Post
    ... then everyone just scatters off in all directions anyway, and quickly die with no heals.....
    I really don't enjoy that as a healer, I look at the minimap and see all my party members all spread around the map like little confettis. When that happens if I notice another alliance party that seems to act as group, I will just follow and support them instead. If all is completely disorganized, I usually get bored and remain around the central area and base waiting for any random regroupment or buffing the respawning players passing by :|

    But I don't think it's because most want to play hero, it's just that if there is no leadership, the group have natural tendancy to get splitted as there is no direction to follow. In the good cases people will care about breaking the ice thingies and regroup at these points and not just roam chaotically hunting players.
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