FFXIV: Cheat 2 Win - The New Norm?

[Evangela]

I told you 2-3 Times already before that Gatherer Bots gather 24/7 and hurt Gatherers that Way by putting 99x Stacks on the entire Marketboard.

Who in the hell would buy 99x Stacks of Luminium Ores / Smithsonite Ore or Meteorite as a Crafter? Nobody, so it does indeed hurt the Crafters.

There you have it.

You should hate them simply because those People Cheat in a MMORPG involving other People playing it. Given the Fact you pay for the Game, you play via Hand and they don't do it.

Damn, I pay the Subscription mainly because I want a Community that is Active and not being automated by Bot Programs where you can't even speak to People if the Game would be infested.

Got it?

But I'm not a gatherer nor a crafter.

[Mwynn]

But I'm not a gatherer nor a crafter.

That doesn't matter, they still cheat and use 3rd Party Tools and have Advantages over you.
Not only the Catigory Gathering/Crafting, Bots are able to Grind most stuff such as FATEs, Dailies, Tomestones, Hunts and other stuff.

How does that not hurt the PvE Environment?

It's still about People Cheating and liking them because they put low Prices on the Marketboard is Supportive in a Way, hence Bot Supporting.

It's like saying "Good Boy" to your Dog when he ruined your Couch...

[Evangela]

That doesn't matter, they still cheat and use 3rd Party Tools and have Advantages over you.
Not only the Catigory Gathering/Crafting, Bots are able to Grind most stuff such as FATEs, Dailies, Tomestones, Hunts and other stuff.

How does that not hurt the PvE Environment?

It's still about People Cheating and liking them because they put low Prices on the Marketboard is Supportive in a Way, hence Bot Supporting.

It's like saying "Good Boy" to your Dog when he ruined your Couch...

I don't care about other characters' progress. They can bot to lv60 and get items all they want, as long as they don't take anything away from me directly. If bots steal hunt targets from players then I might care a little bit.

Well... in this case the dog didn't ruin my couch though. He ruined my brother's couch.

[Mwynn]

I don't care about other characters' progress. They can bot to lv60 and get items all they want, as long as they don't take anything away from me directly. If bots steal hunt targets from players then I might care a little bit.

Well... in this case the dog didn't ruin my couch though. He ruined my brother's couch.

Imagine there is Bots in PvP also, Speed Hacking their Way like one said before. Now couple that with Teleporting around and that sure makes a difference in the outcome of the PvP Duty.
It's not only that Stuff about Gathering/Crafting, People did so in Coil T5 / T8 before and got their Kills, lucky for us Players those People got banned.

They're present in every Gameplay Aspect, some are hidden and some are obvious to detect, yet they do hurt the Environment in some aspects, even if it is Gold Saucer Bots...
People that grind the MGP with their hands all Day playing those Minigames feel hopeless and actually "hurt" in that case.

[Evangela]

Imagine there is Bots in PvP also, Speed Hacking their Way like one said before. Now couple that with Teleporting around and that sure makes a difference in the outcome of the PvP Duty.
It's not only that Stuff about Gathering/Crafting, People did so in Coil T5 / T8 before and got their Kills, lucky for us Players those People got banned.

They're present in every Gameplay Aspect, some are hidden and some are obvious to detect, yet they do hurt the Environment in some aspects, even if it is Gold Saucer Bots...
People that grind the MGP with their hands all Day playing those Minigames feel hopeless and actually "hurt" in that case.

If they do that in PvP, of course I'll care. But they don't.

Gold Saucer bots farming MGP? again I don't care about other characters' progress, as long as they don't take anything from me directly. I'm not that petty. No one can hurt me just because they're riding on a Fenrir. It's dumb.

[Magic-Mal]

If they do that in PvP, of course I'll care. But they don't.

Gold Saucer bots farming MGP? again I don't care about other characters' progress, as long as they don't take anything from me directly. I'm not that petty. No one can hurt me just because they're riding on a Fenrir. It's dumb.

---GOOGLE TRANSLATE---


"It's okay that those guys kill people. As long as they don't kill me"

"It's okay if this team used steroids to get 20 gold medals. As long as I don't have to compete against them."

[Mwynn]

---GOOGLE TRANSLATE---


"It's okay that those guys kill people. As long as they don't kill me"

"It's okay if this team used steroids to get 20 gold medals. As long as I don't have to compete against them."

It's quite funny how she thinks I directed that to her, in the end she doesn't care because she won't. So if she doesn't care, why is she here and tries to argument?
It's like the Bots are not doing anything to her, so why do care about this Thread and make stuff up I do wonder. She doesn't care ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

She should, as She is actually "Part" of the Community, speaking of that Post Counter.. I wonder if her "I don't care" Mentality is actually true in the end.
If not so well, that wouldn't make sense at all as she always finds a Thread she cares about!

In the End I love that said Person also does care about PvP and how PvP is so abused by cheesing/cheating it out via Win Trading or Botting but she does not care, as she just doesn't.

Logic, People, this is Logic!

[Evangela]

---GOOGLE TRANSLATE---


"It's okay that those guys kill people. As long as they don't kill me"

"It's okay if this team used steroids to get 20 gold medals. As long as I don't have to compete against them."

Cheating in sport competitions is taking something from the others directly since there're limited gold medals and cheaters will take them away from the others. Gathering bots are obtaining things from unlimited resources. Gold Saucer bots aren't taking my Fenrir, it's a Fenrir from the system and they're unlimited.

Killing people is wrong. But I'm not gonna come out on the street, yelling about how much I hate them. It's the polices and the courts' job to deal with them. Just like the bots, it's GM's job. They're gonna do their job whether I hate bots or not. It doesn't matter.

[Mwynn]

Killing people is wrong. But I'm not gonna come out on the street, yelling about how much I hate them. It's the polices and the courts' job to deal with them. Just like the bots, it's GM's job. They're gonna do their job whether I hate bots or not. It doesn't matter.

Wrong, without the Community working against the Bots the Game would be flooded with them. We have to Report them in the end making the Life of the GMs easier to investigate. Something you maybe didn't understand eh, but you don't care as you don't bother to Report Cheaters.

Hence we got that RMT Report Button as the RMT Spammers in the Cities were too much in the end making hell outta the Job of a GM.

[NessaWyvern]

Then why should we care about gatherer bots? The only ones suffering are those people who play MMO just so they can be a miner, a botanist, and a fisher. It's like 2-3 people per server anyway.

Maybe people actually want their classes they get to 60 to be rewarding. Imagine getting your combat classes to 60, and finding that they were almost useless. I do gathering when waiting for queues, and gathering can be fun, chasing down the nodes, getting collectables, etc. It's not fun when that effort gives you no rewards. Besides, what's wrong with becoming a miner/botanist/fisher in an MMO? People can play the game how they want as long as it doesn't adversely affect others.