Question to healers regarding Limit Break and Duty Finder

[Gemina]

That certainly is a novel concept to me. Yes, the limit break is generally kept until the end, as I have seen commonly in parties. I typically use it on the first boss as monk, or at the very opening of the second boss, so that the first bar is full by the time the last boss encounter begins. This is sort of a rarely spoken thing to me, as if you use the healing limit break during a pull, you need to be sure that the DPS are not using it on bosses, and that the first bar will be full by the last boss, as people *will* use it on the last boss (... I hope), so it is a very difficult situation to assess in a random party. I certainly wouldn't hate you if you did that in a group I am part in, *if* I see why it has been used, but it can be a sketchy thing to assess when there's no real communication.

That is just it. It is typically saved until the last boss, and it is used to finish off the boss. I am not totally knowledgeable here, but assuming an LB1 bar fills quickly, how many times would it do so from start of the dungeon to the final boss? Twice?. Three times if including during the final boss? That is a pretty big loss if it used only once throughout the entire dungeon IME. You can best believe I will burn it up if I deem it fit. I am a healer. I have the power to do so!

[Holy-chan]

That is just it. It is typically saved until the last boss, and it is used to finish off the boss. I am not totally knowledgeable here, but assuming an LB1 bar fills quickly, how many times would it do so from start of the dungeon to the final boss? Twice?. Three times if including during the final boss? That is a pretty big loss if it used only once throughout the entire dungeon IME. You can best believe I will burn it up if I deem it fit. I am a healer. I have the power to do so!

It differs from dungeon to dungeon, but from my own experience running The Aery about a hundred times because Nidhogg's card just refused to drop for me (I'm a Triple Triad card collector at heart ), the limit break was not yet full on the first boss, and using it to finish off the second boss meant it was not full by the time the final boss battle begins - about three quarters of the way through. So, I'd use it at the very start of the second boss fight, and the limit break bar was either full or nearly so that we'd get an LB2 on the last boss by the time the final boss battle begins.

But it really differs from dungeon to dungeon. I can't exactly tell how much it does, I typically don't run the same thing much in a short time span, as this gets mindnumbing for me.

This being said, I have seen a fair amount of AoE limit breaks during large pulls in level 51-57 dungeons (and Aurum Vale) in random duty finder parties (therefore, without any prior agreement to do so), where you don't overgear everything by 50+ item levels and the limit break actually shaves off a good amount of time in those situations - moreso than using it on a boss. I oftentimes will commendate those people when used right, as it breaks out of the established norms, but is a good decision.

This being said (looks like I use this expression a lot), I ran Sohm Al yesterday evening as WHM, and being the ever aggressive WHM that I am, I used Holy one too many times and ended up completely dry on MP - a mistake I have done on more than one occasion in non-50, non-60 dungeons. I wished I had access to the healer limit break to heal the group at that time (even if I had been scolded for it), but it was before the first boss and we didn't have the bar filled yet. We lived, but it was very, very close.

[Neela]

That is just it. It is typically saved until the last boss, and it is used to finish off the boss.

This is something i never got and probably will never get... if your are running in a grp where everybody knows at least the mechanics - LB3 should be fired out as soon as possible, there is no reason to keep it for the last 10%... especially in raids and savage is a chance that you'll gain bar 1 or even 2 back after using lvl3 in the first place. Waiting for the "fatality" move without a reason is the "real" waste of LB imo.

@topic: yeah seems unusual to me as well but i like different playstyles but be aware that most of the DDs will be confused or even get mad at you without explanation why you are doing this. At least most of the comm got used to use caster LB on trash mobs as well on speed runs - especially if you only have caster/range dds in your party, killing hugh trashmobs on the fly is better than saving it for the boss. Blm and Smn f.e. are loosing to much dps or connection to their rota if they use LB at all and half of the melee-lb power isn't really worth it in most of the times.

[UAnchovy]

This is something i never got and probably will never get... if your are running in a grp where everybody knows at least the mechanics - LB3 should be fired out as soon as possible, there is no reason to keep it for the last 10%... especially in raids and savage is a chance that you'll gain bar 1 or even 2 back after using lvl3 in the first place. Waiting for the "fatality" move without a reason is the "real" waste of LB imo.

Usually the last phase of the boss is the most dangerous, and it makes sense to me to use the LB to minimise the most dangerous phase.

[Deceptus]

That is just it. It is typically saved until the last boss,

If it wasn't used on the first boss, and I'm playing a ranged dps and the next pack is a large pull, I'm going to be using my Limit Break on that pack.