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    WHM regens don't stack in PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KusoWat View Post
    WHM regens don't stack in PvP.
    Sorry, I was not aware we are talking about PVP, nvm me then. ^^
    Didn't check, where the posting was located, so totally my fault here!

    But to say: I barely go with double heal in PVP anyways. As soon as they see me being SCH, other healers in my group switch to DPS anyways. o.o
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    Last edited by AmeliaVerves; 01-30-2017 at 05:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Sorry, I was not aware we are talking about PVP, nvm me then. ^^
    Didn't check, where the posting was located, so totally my fault here!

    But to say: I barely go with double heal in PVP anyways. As soon as they see me being SCH, other healers in my group switch to DPS anyways. o.o
    single healer in pt, or a single healer for each pt, meaning 3 total for 24 people does not work and always in a loss

    even with purify, if you are forced by 3-10 people chainstuning and binding you, you will die solo.

    WHM is helpful when you need heavy aoe healing, I like to see a solo sch keep up with aoe binds and double caster lbs, though the magic defense ability does help, it is the follow up damage you need to out heal along with recovering everyone's hp 50-75%

    WHM+WHM or SCH+SCH is too weak in pvp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    single healer in pt, or a single healer for each pt, meaning 3 total for 24 people does not work and always in a loss
    3 healers, if they all used their alliance bars to cross-party heal, would be enough to keep everyone alive, especially if the non-healers are competent enough to hold their own weight and the extra dps from being down a healer is tangible.

    But that's not usually how it is. There's probably gonna be healers who don't cross party heal (not my party not my problem). There's gonna be dps and tanks that pull less than 20k dmg the entire match. More to the point... the reason you have so few healers in the first place is most likely that nobody really cares about winning. I don't look at that as losing because of lack of heals, but rather due to a lack of anyone giving a crap.

    The balance thing is the same in PvE too. Serious endgame raiding groups aren't going to take two healers of the same job, even ast-ast because as others mentioned its far from optimal. But frontlines isn't the equivalent of endgame raiding xD its more like alexander normal or whatever the 24m raid is called. /shrug, when I do go healer, I dont really give much consideration to what job the other healer is, because you dont really, for the most part need to double-team heal a single target. Just like how in alex normal you almost always have one or both healers in clerics
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiramisuMacaron View Post
    PvP shouldn't be balanced around FL, 8v8, or duels. It would be like balancing league of legends around ARAM. This is a non-issue compared to all the other balancing issues.
    SCH in particular lacks CC, so even you should admit that is an issue. That is why having 2 of them hurts
    WHM has little when it comes to instant bail out heals, that is why 2 of them hurts for large group pvp

    Quote Originally Posted by Enlial View Post
    3 healers, if they all used their alliance bars to cross-party heal, would be enough to keep everyone alive, especially if the non-healers are competent enough to hold their own weight and the extra dps from being down a healer is tangible.
    SCH does not have enough tools to support that. If I am cross healing like that and use my aetherflow stacks, then someone rushes my party we are scewed, and it happened to me before. Dissipation only does so much to bail out.
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    Last edited by Ama_Hamada; 01-31-2017 at 04:17 AM.