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  1. #71
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    I find the statements that making the Servers "Language Specific" will greatly effect the prime-times for English speaking players

    You see, I used to live in Hawaii when I played FFXI the most. This effectively made my "prime time" the same as the Japanese players. But, I very rarely if ever got invited to their parties (so lonely), However those lovely Aussies who shared the same primetime as us not only invited me to go XPing, but also spoke the same language. So if they segregate the servers by Language rather than Region, the English speakers stand to lose the least in the way of 24 hour server populations, it's the Japanese that stand to lose the most in way of player populations.

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    Mixed servers are the only way to go. It keeps the world alive 24/7 and I love teaming up with the JP community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prox View Post
    Mixed servers are the only way to go. It keeps the world alive 24/7 and I love teaming up with the JP community.
    your opinions =/= facts
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaDante View Post
    I've never once had this happen to me, i always use auto translate and things work out
    Lucky you, I got kicked out of TONS of JP only parties in FFXI. Even when trying to use Auto-translate.
    But there were also a bunch of parties with JPN players that I didn't get kicked out of too. So *shrug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chain View Post
    I remember the whole thing unfolding in XI. NA players move into the game and are of course,noobs (Like all new players). Trouble is this was 2003 and many people had no idea about MMO manners. JP had a full year to learn the basics and when NA showed up they instantly labeled them terrible, rude etc. As the years went on the NA far surpassed the JP on my server. Sure the JP had full land king gear when we all joined the game and looked the definition of ELITE. As time went on they proved otherwise.

    I still remember one of my last merit parties was with a couple of the JP from those linkshells, they were by far the worst players you could get into a group with. Full adaman with spike necklace and warriors belt. They didn't do a thing after land kings and as far as I know many didn't even manage to get sea access.

    Really get tired of the "Respect the JP's!!" blabber. Like the one's that used to go around spam switching gear because they had some mental deficiency that sent them into a blind rage if someone inspected their gear. I was on the same server for many years and met maybe 2-3 JP that were not completely self absorbed and rude.

    We even had one famous guy that used to setup camp and sell food and such and had "JP ONLY BUY" in his comment, if an NA would buy some of his stuff he'd rage and spam slap and threaten GM calls (lol)

    Another specific linkshell used to try their best to train spiders on faf everytime NA would get a claim and shout insults when NA first started camping kings.

    I'll give my respect where it's due but in this case they deserved none.
    And finally we start getting a more accurate picture of how XI was instead of:

    Better to play with JPN players since they're both tactful and efficient which is really all I can ask for.
    I'm in full support of regional servers less to keep within my language barrier (I really don't care, I know enough common phrases in Japanese that it's not a problem unless they're stuck up) and more to keep away from the weeaboos and posers who think Japanese people are God's gift to MMOs. I'd rather deal with an JP player being rude to me than a fellow NA sucking up to that person as if they're the holy grail of gaming due to their ethnicity.
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  6. #76
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    Hmmm.. intersting thread :> ... i have 2 things to say about this:
    1- I care about Delay in servers, its important in game play especially with SE current servers, My ping to besaid server is about "380ms", but if i ping to an EU server or US? its not more than 200ms~ & anything above 200ms will be slow for me ><; .

    2- I also care about mixing us togather in one server~ why? its always good to mix different people togather~ discovering each other cultures~ interact with each other~ learn other languages as well as more party invites~ even if its for a little bit .

    So for me... not sure which server to join ; w ; .
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    Last edited by Kona4me; 10-18-2011 at 02:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    I find the statements that making the Servers "Language Specific" will greatly effect the prime-times for English speaking players

    You see, I used to live in Hawaii when I played FFXI the most. This effectively made my "prime time" the same as the Japanese players. But, I very rarely if ever got invited to their parties (so lonely), However those lovely Aussies who shared the same primetime as us not only invited me to go XPing, but also spoke the same language. So if they segregate the servers by Language rather than Region, the English speakers stand to lose the least in the way of 24 hour server populations, it's the Japanese that stand to lose the most in way of player populations.
    This is exactly what I was talking about a few pages back. Having 400-500 extra Japanese players on during their prime time does nothing for me if they're unwilling to play with me.

    Also, I don't quite understand why people are freaking out about this. Did the roadmap mention a cross-server dungeon finder or something? Maybe I've been up to long, but I could have sworn I read people talking about that somewhere. If there is, I guarantee that it will be separated by language as well, and most JP people will click the JP only box. But even if there isn't a cross-server tool, I don't quite understand all of this freaking out over prime times. It will likely be language specific, not regional, and even if it's regional, there are still plenty of people on at all hours of the day. You people freaking out aren't the only person online at 2am. I never have a problem in WoW playing at odd times during the day, even with stuff that is only on my server, not PvP or LFD. Same way with XI, it was only after a lot of people stopped logging on during the 2006 inflation that I started having problems finding people to do stuff with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipp View Post
    And finally we start getting a more accurate picture of how XI was instead of:



    I'm in full support of regional servers less to keep within my language barrier (I really don't care, I know enough common phrases in Japanese that it's not a problem unless they're stuck up) and more to keep away from the weeaboos and posers who think Japanese people are God's gift to MMOs. I'd rather deal with an JP player being rude to me than a fellow NA sucking up to that person as if they're the holy grail of gaming due to their ethnicity.
    you kinda expect many posts of "Blind SE fans in a supported SE website"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kona4me View Post
    Hmmm.. intersting thread :> ... i have 2 things to say about this:
    1- I care about Delay in servers, its important in game play especially with SE current servers, My ping to besaid server is "380ms", but i ping to an EU server or US? its not more than 200ms~ naything above 200ms will be bad for me ><; .
    The servers will likely all be hosted in Japan, regardless of what language/region they are for. Thus your ping will still be the same.

    2- I also care about mixing us togather in one server~ why? its always good to mix different people togather~ discovering each other cultures~ interact with each other~ learn other languages .

    So for me... not sure~ but i think i'll join global servers ^ ^ .
    I feel the same way, but honestly, I'm glad that there is a choice in the matter. If most of the Japanese people want their own servers, I don't understand what the problem is. They'll be on JP only servers suffering when there aren't people on at prime time, whereas Europe and NA will likely be on the same servers since most EUs I've come across don't have much of a problem interacting in English, even if they only know basics and don't quite have the grammar worked out.

    Really, this is only going to hurt JP players, but if that's what they want, that's fine with me.
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    I, for one, will be happy to see segregated servers. Although I generally like to play alongside the Japanese, and as well they tend to be good players, I'm about sick and tired of invites for various events turned down due to the simple fact that I don't speak Japanese. I can understand the language barrier and the reasonings for not doing highly strategic events such as Ifrit and such, but an EXP party? Come on. I honestly don't remember the last time I had to tell someone what to do in a grind party, and if I did, then there are plenty of translator terms in place.

    Is it because of racism that they don't join us for these types of things? I mean, I remember when I transferred to Cerberus playing XI and literally had to leave the server because I couldn't get anything done due to not being able to start or join anything. If so, then that's a harsh thing to think about: defaulting out because of some unwarranted sense of superiority.
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