December 2011 is the end

[Betelgeuzah]

Honestly speaking, even though I'm not going to pay I'm still warming up for the sub fee now that some things have been explained.

Basically knowing that some of the things they've been working on to appeal to the current players will be going to dumpster once 2.0 arrives must have been a tough decision to make.

I wouldn't be surprised if they had the other option to simply adjust the current build with features that will be moved over while working fulltime on the 2.0 build at the same time.

Knowing that they are working "extra" for the sake of the current playerbase, which is by no means large any way you look at it, and knowing that the current players must somewhat enjoy the game to keep playing it even in it's current state, asking for a fee is not really unreasonable.

Of course going with the other option would have meant more free playtime for all, but on the other hand the updates up until 2.0 would have been rather lackluster as well, so with the free playtime also comes less quality content. So, both have their advantages and disadvantages, and it seems they came to a decision that making the experience as good as possible to the current players even if they had to pay for the extra expenses, was the way to go.

Of course this is just me, but honestly speaking if we didn't have to pay a dime I wouldn't expect all the extra content either. Since either way we are getting the 2.0 build for free, and we have played for 15 months free as well. SE has nothing to prove as far as appeasing the playerbase goes, now they need to get 2.0 out and make it good. That's the best thing they could do to fix their mistakes for all of us.

If some players still think that after 15 months of free playtime they still haven't gotten their money's worth (plus a free game once its done), regardless of the quality of said playtime the quantity should more than make up for it. Lets face it: If there was nothing enjoyable about playing this game you wouldn't have done so for the past 15 months.

[ArcheustheWise]

Lets face it: If there was nothing enjoyable about playing this game you wouldn't have done so for the past 15 months.

Then there's the small fact that maybe, just maybe your playing because your friends are and your just hanging out and doing stupid stuff? Hmm.. that couldn't be a possibility right?

Let me pose this question... "if your friends werent playing or if anyone wasn't playing for that matter ,would you?"

Actually that question is for everyone in this thread. Please answer it.

[Starlord]

Then there's the small fact that maybe, just maybe your playing because your friends are and your just hanging out and doing stupid stuff? Hmm.. that couldn't be a possibility right?

Let me pose this question... "if your friends werent playing or if anyone wasn't playing for that matter ,would you?"

Actually that question is for everyone in this thread. Please answer it.

Yes I would stay because I love the game and I have Multiple 50's and Enjoying everything about it =)

[ArcheustheWise]

Yes I would stay because I love the game and I have Multiple 50's and Enjoying everything about it =)

So youve been playing by yourself all this time? Or with friends?

[Alerith]

So youve been playing by yourself all this time? Or with friends?

It sounds like you're trying to take the Massive Multiplayer part out of the MMO.

If all his friends didn't play, he'd just make new ones with other players. It's a perpetual thing.

You're basically asking "If there was no human life on the server, would you still play?"

[ArcheustheWise]

It sounds like you're trying to take the Massive Multiplayer part out of the MMO.

If all his friends didn't play, he'd just make new ones with other players. It's a perpetual thing.

You're basically asking "If there was no human life on the server, would you still play?"

Exactly. If no humans were playing.... would you play? And i need an answer from you too plz good sir. I'm trying to see something. Thanks in advance!

[Starlord]

So youve been playing by yourself all this time? Or with friends?

Look, In the end Your Question is flawed because either way you look at it, there's still ALOT of people that are staying in the game, What I'm kinda getting from you is, your trying to stir up trouble and my Whole LS is staying along with alot of people on my Server. So, I won't answer your question, because there's no meaning behind your question in this circumstance.

[ArcheustheWise]

Look, In the end Your Question is flawed because either way you look at it, there's still ALOT of people that are staying in the game, What I'm kinda getting from you is, your trying to stir up trouble and my Whole LS is staying along with alot of people on my Server. So, I won't answer your question, because there's no meaning behind your question in this circumstance.

Lol. See this is the problem, right here. Once someone disagrees with you, their instantly trying to cause trouble. I haven't seen one person on the "im going to sub for this come 1.20" side of the fence ONCE try to see it the other sides way. You think I don't care for the game? You think i can't pay the measly 10.50 or whatever it is to pay to play? You really think im wasting my time to cause trouble... really? lmao. .. no im not.

My concern is come time to pay to play a sizable amount of people are going to leave, if not because the games isn't ready in their eyes (its ok in my eyes btw, just how much is to be determined) but then you got other titles that are coming out NEAR the said date well isnt it logical to state that will suck out more?...

And the funny thing is when i simply try to have people see my point (albeit a few honest non flammable questions first to grab peoples attention, so they just dont skim through my post) you say im causing trouble... rich.

Please try to see it from another point of view before pointing fingers.. thanks. Im done here.

[Starlord]

Lol. See this is the problem, right here. Once someone disagrees with you, their instantly trying to cause trouble. I haven't seen one person on the "im going to sub for this come 1.20" side of the fence ONCE try to see it the other sides way. You think I don't care for the game? You think i can't pay the measly 10.50 or whatever it is to pay to play? You really think im wasting my time to cause trouble... really? lmao. .. no im not.

My concern is come time to pay to play a sizable amount of people are going to leave, if not because the games isn't ready in their eyes (its ok in my eyes btw) but then you got other titles that are coming out NEAR the said date well isnt it logical to state that will suck out more?...

And the funny thing is when i simply try to have people see my point (albeit a few honest non flammable questions first to grab peoples attention, so they just dont skim through my post) you say im causing trouble... rich.

Please try to see it from another point of view before pointing fingers.. thanks. Im done here.

Your " trying to put "fear" in other people that are considering to "sub" for the game which is a form of Persudation (sp). Thats the vibe I feel from the words you have dished out.

As I said to other people and I'll say it to you:

" Let time take its course" You'll find out on the game come Subbing time weather or not people have stayed, or if people left.

Simple, Drop the Subject and let it go.